[OT] Another heated discussion about the Iraq siutation, war and politics.

[tesco samoa]

Some heavy losses the Last 2 days for both sides....

Here is an interesting link

http://www.minimumeffort.com/nutshell.html

A WARMONGER EXPLAINS WAR TO A PEACENIK
By Anonymous

[rextorres]

Originally posted by tesco samoa:
Some heavy losses the Last 2 days for both sides....

Here is an interesting link

http://www.minimumeffort.com/nutshell.html

A WARMONGER EXPLAINS WAR TO A PEACENIK
By Anonymous

That link sounds like this thread.

EDIT: While doing my taxes I just realized that based on the number of tax payers in this country we've each - on avg. - just paid around $800 of our hard earned money to blow up Iraq. We could have given every man, woman, and child of Iraq $4500. Kind of wacky if you ask me. This is based on $100B price tag for this adventure.

[ April 08, 2003, 09:18: Message edited by: rextorres ]

[General Woundwort]

Originally posted by rextorres:
While doing my taxes I just realized that based on the number of tax payers in this country we've each - on avg. - just paid around $800 of our hard earned money to blow up Iraq. We could have given every man, woman, and child of Iraq $4500. Kind of wacky if you ask me. This is based on $100B price tag for this adventure.

It's been tried before. It was called the "Oil for Food" program. The only ones who saw any of the money were Saddam and his "praetorians" (because they controlled the south), and the Kurds (because their distribution program wasn't controlled by Saddam).

So, you are not convinced that this war was a good return on the investment?

[rextorres]

Originally posted by General Woundwort:

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Originally posted by rextorres:
While doing my taxes I just realized that based on the number of tax payers in this country we've each - on avg. - just paid around $800 of our hard earned money to blow up Iraq. We could have given every man, woman, and child of Iraq $4500. Kind of wacky if you ask me. This is based on $100B price tag for this adventure.

It's been tried before. It was called the "Oil for Food" program. The only ones who saw any of the money were Saddam and his "praetorians" (because they controlled the south), and the Kurds (because their distribution program wasn't controlled by Saddam).

So, you are not convinced that this war was a good return on the investment?

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Not if they don't find significant amounts of WMDs. I'm not talking mustard gas either - or a few rusted barrels of sarin -(I am not sure when this war became about liberating the Iraqi people BTW). I want to see a huge wmd plant that had been churning out weapons.

If it had been my money I would have invested it in improving gas mileage - or how about a middle class tax cut - I could give you a laundry list. Or better yet I would pay off North Korea.

[ April 08, 2003, 10:30: Message edited by: rextorres ]

[geoschmo]

"A WARMONGER EXPLAINS WAR TO A PEACENIK
By Anonymous" was interesting. Although it was misnamed. It should have been called, "A misinformed peacenik suffers a pshychotic break in which he fantisizes about having a discussion with a similerly misinformed warmonger."

[General Woundwort]

Originally posted by rextorres:

quote:

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Originally posted by General Woundwort:
So, you are not convinced that this war was a good return on the investment?

Not if they don't find significant amounts of WMDs. I'm not talking mustard gas either - or a few rusted barrels of sarin -(I am not sure when this war became about liberating the Iraqi people BTW). I want to see a huge wmd plant that had been churning out weapons.

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Patience, Grasshopper - all will be revealed...

If it had been my money I would have invested it in improving gas mileage - or how about a middle class tax cut - I could give you a laundry list. Or better yet I would pay off North Korea.

The only "payment" we should give NK is "payment in kind".

As for the rest, it does no good to focus entirely on domestic issues and ignore the dangers of the larger world. It is in part because we did just that in the 90's that we're in the situation we're in now.

[tesco samoa]

Ha Ha Ha good one GEO

[kalthalior]

3 myths revealed

[Aloofi]

Any news about Afghanistan?
I've heard things are not going well there....

[rextorres]

Originally posted by kalthalior:
3 myths revealed

Thanks for the info, but here's the response to the three myths.

Myth 1

Yes most of the weapons are russian, etc. BUT the one percent the U.S sold him are the WMD of mass distraction we can't find.

Myth 2

This guy is plain wrong (unless he gets insider information). From the news sources I've read the most loyal followers are the Fedayin(too lazy too look up spelling) evil true, but not Islamist. The foreign fighters the U.S. has caught are Pan-Arab nationalists not Islamists.

They did get a "training camp" in western Iraq, but it was in an enclave similar to the kurdish one and in the no fly zone - so we could have bombed it out of existance. They were evil too AND also anti-Saddam.

Myth 3

Yes they are under different chapters BUT there is majority support to make them binding except the U.S. would veto them. So the resolutions were passed outside of the sec. council in the general session and a huge majority did vote for them.

The will of the international community counts - when we want it to count.

[ April 08, 2003, 19:37: Message edited by: rextorres ]