[OT] Another heated discussion about the Iraq siutation, war and politics.

[Askan Nightbringer]

Primitive, DavidG -
Couldn't you be anti-Saddam, anti-USA and pro-Iraq? Couldn't you be a pro-Iraqi nationalist so you get behind your leader in times of strife (even thou you don't like him), sort of what Americans call patriotic.
Isn't it like when I watch New Zealand play South Africa in the rugby I support the Kiwis even thou I don't like them, they just happen to be the lesser of two evils?

I didn't want (maybe expect) the Americans to get obliterated by a crappy third world army, but then again I don't want this warmongering to be too easy so it becomes an acceptable solution to any problem.

Tesco -
I can't believe you said what you said and nobody has jumped you. I logged on today to watch the flames but everyone was mute.
To add my bit, its the constant use of the flag that reminds me of the nazis. Everytime I see it I cringe. Australians never seem to rally too much around our national flag, but then its probabaly more to do with that other country's flag in the corner of ours than anything else.

Andres -
The "hand of god" was to get British support. If George was trying to drum up some Argentine support he would have pointed out it was Saddam who decided the Last World Cup pools
Speaking of the soccer, looks like we'll qualify for Germany coz we don't have to play a South American team! Woo woo! We only have to beat New Zealand!! Yeh!!

[rextorres]

Originally posted by Askan Nightbringer:
To add my bit, its the constant use of the flag that reminds me of the nazis.

There are flag wavers in this forum and posters here seem relatively well informed. You can only imagine what it's like amongst the luddites. Instead of singing the "Lied der Deutschen" though they chant "USA!, USA!, USA!."

[ April 15, 2003, 07:24: Message edited by: rextorres ]

[Some1]

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Originally posted by Askan Nightbringer:
To add my bit, its the constant use of the flag that reminds me of the nazis.
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Nationalism....
Also when i watch GWB on tv, it reminds me of Ayatollah Khomeini...(just replace Allah with God)
GWB is (also) a pure Christian Fundamentalist.

[Unknown_Enemy]

This war was swift, and indeed not so bloody. I know it is quite easy to say when you are thousands kilometers away from the conflict, but indeed I believe this war killed less people that would have Saddham.

But when I read stratfor's writings about Syria/USA, I really wonder. The current US administration just can't topple every single country they don't like ?

[Aloofi]

Originally posted by Master Belisarius:
If I’m not wrong, his ancestors are from Syria, and the “joke” was that if he reach the Argentinean’s government and USA invade Syria, he could send again some symbolic troops again.

Ohhhh, isn't his son or grandson the boyfriend of this Britney Spear look alike that is also from Syria or something?

[Aloofi]

Originally posted by Askan Nightbringer:
To add my bit, its the constant use of the flag that reminds me of the nazis.

I'm a flag waver!
Don't confuse Nazism with Nationalism. Nationalism in its purest form is not agressive at all, it only cares of what happens inside its borders.

[tesco samoa]

Askan Nightbringer I am currently hiding under a Tramplobombomee , trampoline. Care to join me. I have a BBQ pit , steaks , and a flat of beer.

[dogscoff]

I'm a flag waver!

*looks at Aloofi's avatar

No, really?

Don't confuse Nazism with Nationalism. Nationalism in its purest form is not agressive at all, it only cares of what happens inside its borders.

Still not a healthy attitude imho. To only care about what goes on in your own borders is to become insular and that can only lead to feelings of superiority/ mistrust over other nations/ races which is an easy route to hatred, nazism and imperialist expansion.

[Mephisto]

[quote]Originally posted by Aloofi:

Don't confuse Nazism with Nationalism. Nationalism in its purest form is not agressive at all, it only cares of what happens inside its borders.

And what do you think Nazism stands for? Nazis did care for their own borders... until they decided to bring home the Sudentendeutsch from across the border...

[Master Belisarius]

[quote]Originally posted by Aloofi:

Ohhhh, isn't his son or grandson the boyfriend of this Britney Spear look alike that is also from Syria or something?

Not exactly… Think you’re talking about the Colombian “Shakira”, and the son of the ex-president Fernando de la Rua, Antonio de la Rua.