.com.unity Forums
  The Official e-Store of Shrapnel Games

This Month's Specials

Raging Tiger- Save $9.00
winSPMBT: Main Battle Tank- Save $6.00

   







Go Back   .com.unity Forums > Illwinter Game Design > Dominions 2: The Ascension Wars

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1  
Old December 5th, 2003, 03:45 PM

Delphinium Delphinium is offline
Private
 
Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: UK
Posts: 17
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Delphinium is on a distinguished road
Default LAN play, or lack of it ??

The only disappointment so far is the program not letting my son & I play across our LAN off the one copy - we could hot seat, so why not let us save time & play on different machines.
Or, have I missed something !
Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old December 5th, 2003, 04:57 PM
Adept's Avatar

Adept Adept is offline
Sergeant
 
Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: Finland
Posts: 250
Thanks: 19
Thanked 13 Times in 8 Posts
Adept is on a distinguished road
Default Re: LAN play, or lack of it ??

Time to buy another copy, I'm afraid. Same deal with the original Dominions.

It's good to support such a great product, though.
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old December 5th, 2003, 05:00 PM

Delphinium Delphinium is offline
Private
 
Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: UK
Posts: 17
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Delphinium is on a distinguished road
Default Re: LAN play, or lack of it ??

I'll skip the getting a second copy. For the very occasional LAN game, it's not quite worth it
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old December 5th, 2003, 05:27 PM
Gandalf Parker's Avatar

Gandalf Parker Gandalf Parker is offline
Shrapnel Fanatic
 
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: Vacaville, CA, USA
Posts: 13,736
Thanks: 341
Thanked 479 Times in 326 Posts
Gandalf Parker is on a distinguished road
Default Re: LAN play, or lack of it ??

Quote:
Originally posted by Delphinium:
The only disappointment so far is the program not letting my son & I play across our LAN off the one copy - we could hot seat, so why not let us save time & play on different machines.
Or, have I missed something !
[short answer]
It seems simple but it crosses an important line. With hotseat it doesnt have to try and figure out the legality of the copy.

[longer answer]
Two computers can be two computers anywhere which means it can be given away to friends. Yes there are ways to recognize a lan but the ways to get around those are very common knowledge (proxies and such) plus involving very different code for each of the operating systems supported.
__________________
-- DISCLAIMER:
This game is NOT suitable for students, interns, apprentices, or anyone else who is expected to pass tests on a regular basis. Do not think about strategies while operating heavy machinery. Before beginning this game make arrangements for someone to check on you daily. If you find that your game has continued for more than 36 hours straight then you should consult a physician immediately (Do NOT show him the game!)
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old December 10th, 2003, 03:58 AM
SalsaDoom's Avatar

SalsaDoom SalsaDoom is offline
Corporal
 
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: Saskatoon, SK
Posts: 57
Thanks: 3
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
SalsaDoom is on a distinguished road
Default Re: LAN play, or lack of it ??

Hmmm, that sounds like a load of excuses. There are ways of fooling it, but those are not going to be handy for anywhere near most people. I doubt anyone would be willing to setup a vpn to play with random people on the net.

I know I was really annoyed when it didn't let me play on the lan, thats just crap. I really makes me very angry when copyprotections mess with legitimate Users. Paying twice as much to play on a lan is extremely frusterating.

Blah! ;(

--SD
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old December 10th, 2003, 04:12 AM
Saber Cherry's Avatar

Saber Cherry Saber Cherry is offline
Major General
 
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: Crystal Tokyo
Posts: 2,453
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Saber Cherry is on a distinguished road
Default Re: LAN play, or lack of it ??

On a LAN, you can always keep open a shared folder of the game directory on the non-host computer. The folder should be set with full read-write permission. Then at the end of each turn, you simply move the 2h file to the host's game folder, and after hosting, move the trn file back to your folder. It's hotseat on multiple computers... like PBEM, but being on a LAN makes it much faster and much less work.
__________________
Cherry
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old December 11th, 2003, 02:59 AM
Gandalf Parker's Avatar

Gandalf Parker Gandalf Parker is offline
Shrapnel Fanatic
 
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: Vacaville, CA, USA
Posts: 13,736
Thanks: 341
Thanked 479 Times in 326 Posts
Gandalf Parker is on a distinguished road
Default Re: LAN play, or lack of it ??

Quote:
Originally posted by Saber Cherry:
On a LAN, you can always keep open a shared folder of the game directory on the non-host computer. The folder should be set with full read-write permission. Then at the end of each turn, you simply move the 2h file to the host's game folder, and after hosting, move the trn file back to your folder. It's hotseat on multiple computers... like PBEM, but being on a LAN makes it much faster and much less work.
Wow thats so elegant and simple. If they are lan then they should be able to use a shared directory to do an MP game.

Have you tested this? Is the check for same-copy done only by direct connects? It seems to me that if it doesnt then it wouldnt be able to on PBEM either.
__________________
-- DISCLAIMER:
This game is NOT suitable for students, interns, apprentices, or anyone else who is expected to pass tests on a regular basis. Do not think about strategies while operating heavy machinery. Before beginning this game make arrangements for someone to check on you daily. If you find that your game has continued for more than 36 hours straight then you should consult a physician immediately (Do NOT show him the game!)
Reply With Quote
  #8  
Old December 11th, 2003, 03:53 AM
Saber Cherry's Avatar

Saber Cherry Saber Cherry is offline
Major General
 
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: Crystal Tokyo
Posts: 2,453
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Saber Cherry is on a distinguished road
Default Re: LAN play, or lack of it ??

I'm on a LAN, but just with my parents, and they don't DOM=)

So I have not checked, but I cannot imagine how it would fail, unless the 2h files include the HDD serial number (or to be safe, a secret hash of the #). Anyway, you have to start the game as hotseat, not PBEM...

And thanks for the compliment
__________________
Cherry
Reply With Quote
  #9  
Old December 11th, 2003, 04:07 AM
Gandalf Parker's Avatar

Gandalf Parker Gandalf Parker is offline
Shrapnel Fanatic
 
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: Vacaville, CA, USA
Posts: 13,736
Thanks: 341
Thanked 479 Times in 326 Posts
Gandalf Parker is on a distinguished road
Default Re: LAN play, or lack of it ??

Quote:
Originally posted by Saber Cherry:
Anyway, you have to start the game as hotseat, not PBEM...
Bingo. That slipped past me. That probably would make all the difference.
__________________
-- DISCLAIMER:
This game is NOT suitable for students, interns, apprentices, or anyone else who is expected to pass tests on a regular basis. Do not think about strategies while operating heavy machinery. Before beginning this game make arrangements for someone to check on you daily. If you find that your game has continued for more than 36 hours straight then you should consult a physician immediately (Do NOT show him the game!)
Reply With Quote
  #10  
Old December 11th, 2003, 06:29 AM
Argitoth's Avatar

Argitoth Argitoth is offline
Lieutenant Colonel
 
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: Gilbert, AZ
Posts: 1,375
Thanks: 1
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Argitoth is on a distinguished road
Default Re: LAN play, or lack of it ??

what if you just borrowed a friend's CD key?
__________________
Composer, Sound Designer, www.elanhickler.com
Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 04:32 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.1
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Copyright ©1999 - 2024, Shrapnel Games, Inc. - All Rights Reserved.