Support ship design

Dralasite · #1 January 17th, 2003, 09:42 PM

So far, when I design support ships, I make them strictly support ships. So my repair ship has no weapons, just a repair bay and I fill the rest up with solar collectors. Similar with ship space yards later on (although I give them some storage as well).

I usually put one or two solar collectors on all my ships but I also build some destroyers that are full of solar collectors, no weapons.

Is this the best way to do thing? Maybe I should
have my repair ships have a few pdcs, some armor, or whatnot? Should I not bother with any collectors on my warships and only have support ships?

Thanks!

Arkcon · #2 January 17th, 2003, 09:44 PM

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Originally posted by Dralasite:
So far, when I design support ships, I make them strictly support ships. So my repair ship has no weapons, just a repair bay and I fill the rest up with solar collectors. Similar with ship space yards later on (although I give them some storage as well).

I usually put one or two solar collectors on all my ships but I also build some destroyers that are full of solar collectors, no weapons.

Is this the best way to do thing? Maybe I should
have my repair ships have a few pdcs, some armor, or whatnot? Should I not bother with any collectors on my warships and only have support ships?

Thanks!

I often put a point defense canon or two on my repair and supply destroyers. They can pick off one missile when they encounter enemys -- before they run to the corner

Gryphin · #3 January 17th, 2003, 10:08 PM

As in most things, It depends.
Seems to me there is not much point to putting defence on a support ship.
If the enemy is attacking ships in the cornor then your fleet is gone anyway. Maybe there are exceptions like Arkon's though.

Gozra · #4 January 17th, 2003, 10:32 PM

I design support ships based on what their function is.
1 repair ship
2 Space dock
3 Refueler
4 Cargo
5 Unit launcher
6 Unit Sweeper
7 Scout/raider

I tend to put sensors on these ships as well. My main thought is that these are fleet support ships so anything they can do to support the fleet is a good thing. Extra cargo space, sensors, even missle bays. A big thing with these designs as well is/are the ablity to keep up with the fleet. So I tend to use BC hulls or cruiser hulls.

Slick · #5 January 17th, 2003, 10:38 PM

Try giving a support ship (if not to be assigned to a fleet) the order of Kamakazi instead of Don't get Hurt. A colony ship can often kill an escort or frigate by ramming. It is better than hiding in the corner waiting to be killed. Do NOT do this for a ship in a fleet because you do want support ships to run to the corners during fleet battles.

Slick.

Wanderer · #6 January 17th, 2003, 11:49 PM

The way I see it, weapons and defences reduce the efficiency of a support ship, whilst support items reduce the efficiency of warships.

If I don't arm my support ships, they won't get blown up trying to fight, leaving any survivors low on supply and with no repair crews!

I tend to keep them the same size as the warships they are supporting, so in an emergency I can retro-fit them into extra warships.

Dralasite · #7 January 18th, 2003, 01:31 AM

Thats interesting about support ship sizes. I usually have them at destroyer or lc size, at least for repair and supply ships. That way I can better customize them to fleet size.

I've only used bigger ships for mine sweepers, troop carriers, and (of course) base space yards. Being able to retrofit to warships is an interesting thought.

couslee · #8 January 18th, 2003, 01:52 AM

I did a design for a ship the was intended to take the front line. it only had a couple of guns and lots of shileds. I wanted them to take the brunt of the attacks while the rest of the fleet hung back a spot. it worked kinda ok, but I decided the design was not quite all that. so i went to retrofit them to the other design. The retrofit was refused with "we can't build a new ship".lol
So I don't see how Wanderer is doing that, unless using retro-series building.

I think using retro series is cheezy. and even tho I really wanted to upgrade my "tortise" design I didn't. they will continue on with their current use, or get recycled.

But, to each his/her own

Gandalph · #9 January 18th, 2003, 05:30 AM

You know, I always looked at it this way;

The bigger and more advanced my support ships, the less of them I need to build. Then more warships can be built in a single batch. If I have Mines 2 and you have Mines 1 and we both have LC's and 10 shipyards, I get 5 sweeps and 5 warships to clear a 100 mine minefield in 3 turns, you get 10 sweeps in 3 turns, then 10 warships in 3 more turns. If we are far enough away from each others empire, then that's fine. If we are next to each other, you lose.

tesco samoa · #10 January 18th, 2003, 05:43 AM

I usually try to have support ships match the size and speed of the ships there supporting...

Mine sweepers of the BB or BC class have the 20 Mine sweeperes and also the scanners and supply storage and supply generators...

Supply ships have 3 repair units on them... the rest supply storage and supply generators...

Warp Openers and Warp Closers have the 500 kt size with one repair bay , the sm device rest supply generators..