Re: "A Song of Ice and Fire", veterans-only game, MA. In progress, midgame...
 

I apologize for being lame, but I just did another extremely-meh turn.... this is shaping up to be a very interesting fight Ermor + I vs Pythium, but not if I don't have time to do decent turns :(.

Re: "A Song of Ice and Fire", veterans-only game, MA. In progress, midgame...
 

Hmmm...that breakout went a little better than expected.

Re: "A Song of Ice and Fire", veterans-only game, MA. In progress, midgame...
 

That's a pity, because, as you've correctly pointed out, you are now in war with my nation, together with Ermor, after your attacks on my territory last turn and this turn. And in terms of number of provinces as well as the size of the army, you are number two nation in the world. I also wouldn't be surprised if you are number one nation in terms of raw magical power on the battlefield, since both me and Ermor have been too damned successful in wiping each other mages during our war. And you certainly has highest quality troops of all nations, with all these blood summons.

You are right, it would be a very interesting fight - me vs you and Ermor, the fight with very uncertain outcome, now that you have joined it. And of course Ulm and BL are also fully engaged in it, fighting Ermor in the south. However I think Ermor needs your full support if your side is to prevail in this war. Executor please correct me if I am wrong but I don't think Ermor can pull it off without you DrPraetorious - by now I have pushed Ermor too far back in terms of provinces, gem income and borders. I have to admit that you joining Ermor now in this war was a very right move for your nation. And I also know you can do awesome turns if you put your mind into it and will have enough time, since you are very experienced player and I am glad we have you in this game.

So what do you suggest we do? Do you feel you will have enough time to do your turns in the future? As I know, I am always willing to grant time extensions to players who need it.

Re: "A Song of Ice and Fire", veterans-only game, MA. In progress, midgame...
 

My crone finally was healed of her mute status :) Great news for our people. A bit too late, but still...

Re: "A Song of Ice and Fire", veterans-only game, MA. In progress, midgame...
 

This week is going to be tough, as I am traveling and working at the same time. But I don't want other players to lose interest? So I'd prefer not to ask for extensions all the time.

Re: "A Song of Ice and Fire", veterans-only game, MA. In progress, midgame...
 

Ahm, I'm still to even look at the turn, I suspect it went rather bad, there were too many risky decisions to make so I ended up doing god knows what :(

I'm up for extension, this late on, with so much mirco (at least on my side) you're more likely to lose interest with faster hosting schedule.

Oh, and yes, you are absolutely correct, I have no chance in hell without Dr.P. You had a to big a lead in gems even before the war, not to mention I'm engaged with BL and Ulm besides you.
I just don't have the resources to fight on so many sides, and the tartarians that keep pillaging my provinces ain't helping. My cap fell victim this turn, so I'm probably down another 2500 gold this turn...:(
I recon this game is probably yours already, but I'll do my best to stop you, oh and don't worry, I know when I'm beat and I won't drag on the game if it comes to that. ;)

Re: "A Song of Ice and Fire", veterans-only game, MA. In progress, midgame...
 

Heh. And this act of renewal happens on the first turn of active Jotuns vs Pythium war. So the renewed crone sitting in her castle finds itself in the middle of active war between her old opponents. Which, surporisingly enough, may give Vans some reprieve, since Jotuns and Pythium may be too busy tearing each other appart all around van's castle to afford such distraction. Although TC is likely to come to extract small measure of revenge for their fallen empire.

Re: "A Song of Ice and Fire", veterans-only game, MA. In progress, midgame...
 

Well, of course it would be good to try to keep these extensions to minimum, now that we are on 72h hosting, but I think it is much better to ask for extension then having to submit rushed turns, since the coming turns may very well be critical to the outcome of this game. Especially for 3 major nations of Ermor, Jotuns and my Pythium, who are currently leaders of this world and require quite a bit of time to do proper turns.

So don't hesitate to ask for extension if you have no other choice DrP. Same goes for other players of course. One note though - it's better to give me a bit of advance notice, since I don't check this board every every few hours - there were several times when I got your guys extension requests at the last possible moment. We were lucky with it in the past that I have seen these last minute notes in time to adjust hosting but it may not turn out so well next time.

Re: "A Song of Ice and Fire", veterans-only game, MA. In progress, midgame...
 

I understand, thank you.

Frankly I don't think the game is mine at this point - your and my various fronts and borders have been quite stable for several turns now, despite our massive clashes. This turn you have even repelled my underwater attack on your sea castle, and you are still besieging my central castle with its walls now down and 4k undead troops nearby, while I haven't made any new progress with any of my own three sieges of your castles. And now Jotuns have thrown their considerable and undiminished might on your side of the scales.

My noticeable raise in the current turn in provinces&gems graphs was just me remote-attacking the whole bunch of undefended jotuns provinces with magery. I expect Jotuns will get all of them back and likely more in no time, since unlike myself they have real armies in that area - large ones.

All and all - I think the outcome of this game is very much uncertain at this point. Now that Jotuns are in, the scales once again hang in balance.

Re: "A Song of Ice and Fire", veterans-only game, MA. In progress, midgame...
 

Well done Ulm. Pythium now officially leaves the south to you and BL, unless I will get some requests from one of your two resurging nations to attack specific Ermor (or Jotun) provinces with ghost riders or by other means, in which case I will do my best to provide such support.

I will keep bidding and competing with Ermor for the merces of course, in part to prevent Ermor from adding them to their partly depleted southern forces, now that they have significant difficulties in bringing fresh reinforcements to the south, thanks to BL's Sea of Ice.

Re: "A Song of Ice and Fire", veterans-only game, MA. In progress, midgame...
 

Cool game. I wish I was a bit stronger, but still a nice game to watch.

Re: "A Song of Ice and Fire", veterans-only game, MA. In progress, midgame...
 

Bah! The warlords of Ulm sneer at such talk and emplore the warriors of TC to stop playing with their consorts and strike! :D

Re: "A Song of Ice and Fire", veterans-only game, MA. In progress, midgame...
 

I need *at least* 24 hrs to complete this turn.

Initial complication - I gave my friend Auburn at a 10 pt spread, so I wanted Oregon to win *and* I have to buy drinks. Not cool.

But on top of that, the former players for Ulm and BL owe me all kinds of wargilt from back in the day and I'm not sure they're willing to pay up? So I need an arbitrary long time to form a larger alliance in favor of my eventual victory. Thanks!
--DrPraetor

Re: "A Song of Ice and Fire", veterans-only game, MA. In progress, midgame...
 

Not sure what this means Dr.P. I've had Ulm from the beginning, and I'm not aware that I owe you anything. What's up? :confused:

Re: "A Song of Ice and Fire", veterans-only game, MA. In progress, midgame...
 

Hmm, I was hoping that with long technical delay already introduced by the glitch in Lama serever we will be able to make this turn on time, but all right, I will add the dealy.

24h added, DrP let me know if you'll need more.

Re: "A Song of Ice and Fire", veterans-only game, MA. In progress, midgame...
 

I'm going to need another 24 hrs (so until Friday, 4AM GMT.)

I'll make absolutely sure to have a decent turn done by that time, 'k?

Re: "A Song of Ice and Fire", veterans-only game, MA. In progress, midgame...
 

All right. :)

Re: "A Song of Ice and Fire", veterans-only game, MA. In progress, midgame...
 

Since we have a much longer than expected delay (to Sunday?), I'm going to use and not turn in a turn today :).

Re: "A Song of Ice and Fire", veterans-only game, MA. In progress, midgame...
 

Wow, are we still playing this game? I thought it was just on perpetual delay.

Re: "A Song of Ice and Fire", veterans-only game, MA. In progress, midgame...
 

Yes, Lama server has hicked up again. When it happens it seem to reset timer.

Re: "A Song of Ice and Fire", veterans-only game, MA. In progress, midgame...
 

Next turn due: 18:20 GMT on Sunday January 16th
:shock:

Re: "A Song of Ice and Fire", veterans-only game, MA. In progress, midgame...
 

Heads up - the game is about to host! :up:

This turn is going to be the first turn of really global war, now that each and every nation in the realm are fighting each other. The powerful alliance of undeads and giants are now challenges the will of the Pythium Empire. The Ulm and BL are fighting off their freedom against Ermor's oppression. This brutal war has now become even more deadly...

Meanwhile TC continues to fight its own war against Vans who have shattered their empire.

Mental note to myself - in the future I should really try to make my turns in one go. Sure, turns now take a long time, but overall it is clear that I would spend much less time making turn if I do it in one approach, since this way I don't have to recall what the heck I was doing several days ago when I began to work on this turn.

Pretty straight-forward tip, but it really bit me in the butt during this turn when I broke this self-imposed rule. I imagine I've ended up spending at least 50% more time on this turn then I could. I will not repeat it again.

Re: "A Song of Ice and Fire", veterans-only game, MA. In progress, midgame...
 

And the central front has been secured, time to move ahead and wipe out those pesky reinforcements you've brought, my 1000 gem legion laughs at them!

Did you have to go ahead and burn the lab? But it does give me pleasure to have your fort taken by your own enslaved minions, muahahahahah!!! :D

Re: "A Song of Ice and Fire", veterans-only game, MA. In progress, midgame...
 

Yes, I have decided to execute a limited withdrowal on the central front, you've brought too much stuff there. Naturally you have large logisitical advatage there - that central front of ours is within spitting distance from you capital, while I had to bring my reinforcemtns from across the entire map. Well done Executor - that's the first time I had to withdraw my forces in this game.

Our last two major battles on central front were essentially your tactical victories, regardless of the official battle results (one won, one lost), since both times my losses were heavier than yours. Which eventually have forced me to withdrow rather then risk annihilation of what was left of my forces.

However I believe those battles have cost you dearly as well. And I hope that 3rd time is the charm. ;)

So to your 1000 gem legion - bring it on! :fight:

Re: "A Song of Ice and Fire", veterans-only game, MA. In progress, midgame...
 

New turn is hosting! I am going to try to renew offensive on two of my fronts with Ermor. Let's see how it will go, as well as what's going to happen on a very important central front, where Ermor's infamous 1000 gem legion (aka boxing team) is deployed.

Also I am very curious to see what Jotuns are going to do. That army of theirs with almost every blood unique SC and large horde of high level demon troops is scary... :cold:

Re: "A Song of Ice and Fire", veterans-only game, MA. In progress, midgame...
 

Hmm, looks like there maybe some problem with our new turn. It supposed to host an hour ago. Currently all nations turns have been received by Lamaserver but no new turn has been hosted according to the server.

I wonder if that can be somewhat related to the recent patch? Have you guys upgraded? Personally I haven't upgraded yet, but according to the other thread on this forum it should not cause any problems with turn submission/hosting? It is my understanding that you just need to patch your Dom3 client to be able to look at the new turn from patched server, that's all. Is it correct?

Re: "A Song of Ice and Fire", veterans-only game, MA. In progress, midgame...
 

No need to upgrade til the game says so, which I imagine will be this, and by this I mean when it hosts, for you my friend.

There have been hiccups from time to time in the last few days, I presume it should return to normal soon enough.

And btw, I would have also advanced on the central front had you not burned my lab, and of course if half of my SCs weren't gazing at the stars :)

Re: "A Song of Ice and Fire", veterans-only game, MA. In progress, midgame...
 

Ok, sounds good, thank you.

About central front - good, that's why I have burned that lab. ;) Basically for the last few turns I've been doing all I can to slow down your advance on the central front. I desperetely needed time to rebuild my defenses after you have wiped my best 7 SCs and my army, and I was afraid you would push forward before I was ready. BTW if you did push forward I would not be able to stop you, and you would almost certainly overrun all ex-Abyssia territory in few turns with your hordes of undeads that were no longer contained by the bottleneck province and my army protecting it. Which would also lead to my southern army being surrounded and trapped.

You may still be able to pull it off, but at leasy now I had quite a few turns to put together new army to stand againt your forces there.

Re: "A Song of Ice and Fire", veterans-only game, MA. In progress, midgame...
 

Ok, I've sent PM to Lama, describing that our game seem to be temporarily stuck. Hopefully he will be able to look at it soon and will give it a proper kick in the butt. As soon as it will happen we should all get our new turns.

Re: "A Song of Ice and Fire", veterans-only game, MA. In progress, midgame...
 

The problem with Lamaserver is gone, we got new turn. It looks like the issue was due to one of the hosted games crashing Llamabeast server.

I am sure you guys know it already, but just in case - everybody needs to upgrade to 1.26 patch, without it the new turn won't open.

Re: "A Song of Ice and Fire", veterans-only game, MA. In progress, midgame...
 

Seriously Bandar, I doubt the few remaining provinces of Ulm merit raiding by an Ember Lord :shock:

I'm doing everything I can to push Ermor off the southern continent, what's up?

Re: "A Song of Ice and Fire", veterans-only game, MA. In progress, midgame...
 

Added 40h to the hosting time for the current turn due to player's request.

Re: "A Song of Ice and Fire", veterans-only game, MA. In progress, midgame...
 

Is Llamaserver borked?

It's supposed to host in 45 min but the page hasn't updated in hours, and I'm not getting any ack on the turns I'm sending in...

Re: "A Song of Ice and Fire", veterans-only game, MA. In progress, midgame...
 

Probably stuck again being unable to host some one single game which in turn halts the hosting on all the rest. If you sent in the turn you shouldn't stale. Games will probably get delayed by Llama just in case.

The word on the IRC is that Llama will get around to it tomorrow, at least 10h from now so take that time to plan a Very Big attack on Pythium. :)

Re: "A Song of Ice and Fire", veterans-only game, MA. In progress, midgame...
 

Yeah, it's not accepting my turn either.

Re: "A Song of Ice and Fire", veterans-only game, MA. In progress, midgame...
 

Hmmm. I guess I better add more time to the timer. I will try to add another 30 hours if sever will let me. Please try to get your turns in as soon as you can, server has been finicky lately.

EDIT: Attempt has succeeded.

Re: "A Song of Ice and Fire", veterans-only game, MA. In progress, midgame...
 

Yes, please do it. :) Same with Ermor. I am waiting... :mean:

Re: "A Song of Ice and Fire", veterans-only game, MA. In progress, midgame...
 

Ummm... now the game is gone.

Re: "A Song of Ice and Fire", veterans-only game, MA. In progress, midgame...
 

Yes, there is a problem with the server. Llamabeast said he will take care of it tomorrow.

Re: "A Song of Ice and Fire", veterans-only game, MA. In progress, midgame...
 

So did the game omni-stale or not?

I'm willing to live with an omni-stale, although it penalizes me I think more than you guys, since my extensive bloodhunting operation doesn't run properly.

Re: "A Song of Ice and Fire", veterans-only game, MA. In progress, midgame...
 

Actually, I wouldn't mind if the game was just gone. It's become quite tiresome. Who's winning, anyway?

Re: "A Song of Ice and Fire", veterans-only game, MA. In progress, midgame...
 

I hope not.

Re: "A Song of Ice and Fire", veterans-only game, MA. In progress, midgame...
 

This game will never die!

Eventually, Pythium will start wishing for armagedddons, and I will have ritually murdered the entire population of the southern continent. Thus, I will be running low on demons, Pythium will wear me down with his superior gem income.

Re: "A Song of Ice and Fire", veterans-only game, MA. In progress, midgame...
 

I'd wish for armageddon if I had gems!
Heck I'd alchemize all gems to pearls if I had any gems!
I'd alchemize my tartarians to gems if it were possible!

Tho it would be interesting if say a certain blood nation cast AC perhaps?

Re: "A Song of Ice and Fire", veterans-only game, MA. In progress, midgame...
 

Heh. No, no Armageddons, I promise. I will live or die by the strength (or lack of) of my armies and tactics, not by any type of global "I won!"-style spells.

To Executor: You are forgetting that AC is prohibited in this game, as well as Burden of Time and Forge of Ancients. BTW if I had any astral gems left each turn I would dispell your bloody GoH. ;) Alas astral is the most in-demand gem type for me, I don't have enough of it as it is.

Re: "A Song of Ice and Fire", veterans-only game, MA. In progress, midgame...
 

Blah, where's the fun if I can't go on a suicidal globals rampage...:mad:
At least Armageddon is allowed, muhahahahahah!

EDIT> I spent the first 50 turns saving gems for GoH. I very much doubt if can be dispeled or overcast. :)

Tell me about it, I've been meaning to summon a Golem for about 40 turns now...

Re: "A Song of Ice and Fire", veterans-only game, MA. In progress, midgame...
 

Nice battle defending that castle Executor, now you have an extra Ember lord :)

Re: "A Song of Ice and Fire", veterans-only game, MA. In progress, midgame...
 

Brainwashed Ember Lord, which had to be re-equiped and GORed to be of much use. But still... :mad:

Yes, I've underestimated hom much stuff Executor has managed to get to that castle over the last few turns. And I couldn't afford to lose a turn on a scout to peek inside. Aye, good job Executor.

If only my stupid Sea King SC would manage to push to the castle gate, this whole thing may had gone differently... :(

And to add insult to the injury, I've made a stupid mistake on not leaving a single commander on siege duty when ordering storm, damnit.

On a positive note - I've managed to ambush and annihilate two of the Jotun's devil armies, both in a single province. Giants should not split their force like. Too bad their blood SCs have escaped, but still it was an important victory for Pythium - it made the dangerious position of my southern army a bit more stable.


To Executor - so are you planning to just sit on our central front doing nothing? I thought you said you were going to wipe out "my pesky reinforcements", now that you got your bottleneck castle back and rebuild the lab. ;) If you want to achieve a breakthrough you will have to deal with my army there - I am not going to attack you on this front in the near future, since the time is working for me - I have plenty of opportunities to advance on other fronts against you and Jotun, where I do not face such strong opposition. Not to mention I have higher gem income. You, however, will have to come through me, since you can't afford to go around me and leave me in your back.

Re: "A Song of Ice and Fire", veterans-only game, MA. In progress, midgame...
 

Yes! They dare invade us? The mighty Ermor will use Pythiums enslaved minions to punish them for their insolence!

That battle went a little wrong for me actually... :(

Hehehe, sit back? No, no, no.
I've pushed you back on the central front, now the southern front as well. I already made you fall back once in the seas, soon I will do so again.
Which leaves you only with the northern front.
I see your army is still just camping outside although you've broken my gates.
Shame, I rater hoped you'd storm that castle as well.

You've had limited success against me in the past, before Jotun and TC joined. So I think it may be time to throw everything I've got at you, and hopefully TC and Jotun will do the same. I wonder if you can deal with all of us.;)

Re: "A Song of Ice and Fire", veterans-only game, MA. In progress, midgame...
 

Ouch. Well, he's dealing with me fairly well. Admittedly, I screwed up - proper scripting wouldn't have won me those fights, but would've caused him substantial losses, at least :(.