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Master Belisarius April 27th, 2001 08:22 PM

Re: Wondering on Star wars star map data
 
Well, I have Star War Rebellion... and although I respect the opinions of others, I believe that was only a game for SW fanatics, because was a mediocre game.

Yea, the 3d battles were great for the time (now for example, Homeworld is much better), but the space battles were near of the 1% of the time used to play the game!
About the ground battles, are not very different of the SE4 ground battles.

I liked the RP elements in SW Rebellion, and I have played a lot this game (although their VERY WEAK AI), but, I enjoyed it because I love the SW series.
Finally, in my view, SW Rebellion have little things in common with the SE series.

Darwin April 28th, 2001 06:58 AM

Re: Wondering on Star wars star map data
 
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Str8_Gain:
Are you working off the map in The Babylon Project, by any chance? I have a VRML representation of most of it, but all it gives are the EA colonies, plus some surrounding Centauri, Narn, Minbari, and League systems.

It'd have to be translated somehow from its 3D representation into a flat 2D one (project it into the x-y plane, I guess), but I don't know how you'd do it without the warp point lines becoming a rat's nest.
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No actually, My statements were based on locations named on the show, statements made by JMS off the show and this website.
http://www.chronology.org/b-five/ic_astronomy.html

It compiles all the information on the show, and does some theories.

Star Trek is again another easy one, it uses this universe also.

Simple rule, anything that mentions a planet Earth uses the same map as we do.



Phoenix-D April 28th, 2001 07:13 AM

Re: Wondering on Star wars star map data
 
Not sure if that's a safe assumption..they could have made up stars or moved some for convenience, after all.

Phoenix-D

capnq April 28th, 2001 09:00 PM

Re: Wondering on Star wars star map data
 
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR> Not sure if that's a safe assumption..they could have made up stars or moved some for convenience, after all.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>One example of that is the old tabletop boardgame _Federation Space_ (Task Force Games, 1981). The designer's notes point out that they deliberately distorted the map, because at the map's scale, the major worlds of the Federation would all be in a single hex, and it would take 50 years at maximum warp to reach the Klingon border.

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Cap'n Q

Str8_Gain April 28th, 2001 11:39 PM

Re: Wondering on Star wars star map data
 
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Darwin:
No actually, My statements were based on locations named on the show, statements made by JMS off the show and this website.
http://www.chronology.org/b-five/ic_astronomy.html

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Took a peek at it. I based my VRML representation (hopefully the URL works now) off the Hyperspace Route Map presented in The Babylon Project, the role-playing game based on the B5 universe. It has this map of routes (circa 2250) showing the Earth Alliance and nearby alien space in the sourcebook. As I understand it, they has to run it by JMS (and Warner Brothers) before they could release it. Now whether it's completely canon....,well that's another discussion entirely, given the general muck-up of stuff from the show, the novelizations, the other books, and the RPG.

One thing that I've noticed in the Map was that colony names and actual catalog names don't match up totally. For example, the Alliance's "Vega" colony is actually Ross 248. The Minbari Federation owns the real Vega, and named the colony Sh'lekk'tha. In other words, the "common" names aren't necessarily the same as the "catalog" names.


Andrés April 30th, 2001 01:36 AM

Re: Wondering on Star wars star map data
 
http://www.geocities.com/kuatdy/downloads/Map/Map.htm

Noble713 April 30th, 2001 04:44 AM

Re: Wondering on Star wars star map data
 
The Babylon 5 Wars Rules Compendium is supposed to have a complete map of the major races' territory, and I'd assume it has warp lines as well. I don't have it yet (it's not cheap, and I don't play B5W anymore) so I'm not sure if it's true. The Atlas of the Narn-Centauri War has a complete map of Narn and Centaur territory, along with a few other systems. It doesn't list planets, but you can always make them up.


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