Re: Stacking bracelets for a eath bless
 

Wouldnt "hard to counter" mean that it goes on the list as things that you might use against other "hard to counter" tactics? Taking out all of the "hard to counter" things in the game would seem to be counter to balance and a never ending degradation. There will always be something in the hard to counter condition no matter how many you take out.

I think the game benefits from having things that force a nation to have to change their entire strategy in order to build up a counter. And have to balance going too far. Such as shifting to buying all priests to combat an invasion by Ermor. I know that some people would prefer to march their strategically built armies entirely across the map without having to change but Im not sure thats Dom3-ish.
Maybe this comes down to the game that the strategy players want vs the tactical players.
IMHO

Now if it was "impossible to counter" then I could get on board with this.

Re: Stacking bracelets for a eath bless
 

Again, no one is suggesting taking out "hard to counter" things. In fact, this time it was suggested that it was minor because it wasn't hard to counter.

This particular issue seems to have nothing to do with strategy vs tactics or any other broad issues, except maybe the "anything the game engine allows is good" vs "play as intended, avoid exploiting the broken bits" arguments.

Earth bless stacking on non-armor/helmet protection items seems like, at the very least, an unintended consequence of the changes in the Earth bless and armor mechanics for Dom3. Opposition to using it seems to come from that viewpoint not from any real balance issues

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Has it been confirmed that this is not just a screen display issue? You should test it and see if your "Prot37" unit really is unhittable. I've always been suspicious that the reported protection is a display bug, and the actual protection is internally correct.

Re: Stacking bracelets for a eath bless
 

Even 40 protection doesn't make you immune to damage. I tested a 40 prot unit against indies and he regularly took 3-4 points of damage from broadsword hits. He had 0 fatigue, 0 enc. 40 head, 40 body.

So testing it in game would be a bit unreliable.

Re: Stacking bracelets for a eath bless
 

Oh and Gandalf - are you posting in the wrong thread or something? Your reply seems to bear no relation to what's being discussed.

Re: Stacking bracelets for a eath bless
 

Uh uh it would be hilarious if that is true Sombre, because I so agree with him on this topic and in general http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/image...es/biggrin.gif really!! ^_^

Re: Stacking bracelets for a eath bless
 

I would like to know what the max prot is you could get from this with all the items mentioned

(and which part of it is "illegal" or buggy protection)

Re: Stacking bracelets for a eath bless
 

Max protection is 40 and I had no problems getting Niefel SCs at that value.

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At the least the +4 from Earth Bless stacking from multiple bracers is a bug. I'd consider getting +4 from the bracers on top of the standard +4 from wearing armor to be a bug, but that may be a minority view.

The real strength of this probably doesn't come in with massive protection on late game SCs but cheap low-fatigue high protection on early game recruitable thugs. Y

Re: Stacking bracelets for a eath bless
 

It seems to me that if you get more than one copy of the earth bless bonus, regardless of what you're wearing, it's a bug. It should be (and was almost certainly intended to be) 0-1 depending on what you're wearing.