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kianduatha May 8th, 2010 06:03 PM

Re: looking for suggestions on crosspath summons
 
Well, we have two examples of F/N spells--Seven Year Fever and The Kindly Ones. We get this idea that F/N is life pushed too far, too extreme. So then, my suggested summon is basically a berserking, diseaseclouded elephant/other large animal(elephant seems to be pretty good, though, unless someone wants to make a diseased zebra sprite or something).

Another cool thing to do would be a N/D Carrion Drake. If you #copystatted a Frost drake or something, you might be even able to make it Dragon Master-able. I could imagine it having fear and/or poison breath, as well as venomous fangs.

Ragnarok-X May 8th, 2010 07:29 PM

Re: looking for suggestions on crosspath summons
 
Before posting, i already thought about a fire/nature summon and i imagined it somehow like chaos troops from warhammer fantasy, mutated nature, but unlike death/disease it would be affected by mutations overstretching physical endurance or something. Perhaps some kind of frenzied, hairy hulk, some fire bursting out from the mutations or something. I could imagine using the werewolf as the base, without regeneration, fiery claws instead of claws and partly burning fur. Perhaps with a couple of nextshapes so he gets weaker with every turn, the fire and anger overpowering and in the end consuming the creature. Any name ideas ? Fireclaw ? Angerlycant ?
Brainstorming ftw.



One thing i dont like about the burning bush is that N/F should result in some really powerful physically creature and the whole "priest" approach doesnt quite fit N/F...?



I dont think i will do D/N for now, since there are already the carrion summons, mandragora and lamias overlapping.

rdonj May 8th, 2010 08:02 PM

Re: looking for suggestions on crosspath summons
 
Have you ever played magic the gathering? There should be some good n/f creatures to draw on from there, or things that could work, anyway.

Doo May 8th, 2010 08:17 PM

Re: looking for suggestions on crosspath summons
 
F/W - Steam Men, Steam Warriors.

Have Mist Form and the Fire Shield effect to simulate the heat of the steam.

kianduatha May 8th, 2010 09:19 PM

Re: looking for suggestions on crosspath summons
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Ragnarok-X (Post 745015)
Before posting, i already thought about a fire/nature summon and i imagined it somehow like chaos troops from warhammer fantasy, mutated nature, but unlike death/disease it would be affected by mutations overstretching physical endurance or something. Perhaps some kind of frenzied, hairy hulk, some fire bursting out from the mutations or something. I could imagine using the werewolf as the base, without regeneration, fiery claws instead of claws and partly burning fur. Perhaps with a couple of nextshapes so he gets weaker with every turn, the fire and anger overpowering and in the end consuming the creature. Any name ideas ? Fireclaw ? Angerlycant ?
Brainstorming ftw.

I was thinking of the same thing originally, except I realized somewhat belatedly that I had just created Fire Snakes. Unfortunately plain Fire magic has already taken the 'put some firey traits on an animal' idea.

I dunno, whenever I think F/N I think of The Lion King. Maybe some giant hyenas or a crazed herd of wildebeasts(tee hee)?

Swan May 9th, 2010 05:55 AM

Re: looking for suggestions on crosspath summons
 
Actually the fire/nature combo in dominions is "not life pushed too far", to me it seems more like "revenge, hate".
Also, as Kianduatha said, plain fire already use animals.

Ragnarok-X May 9th, 2010 02:31 PM

Re: looking for suggestions on crosspath summons
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Doo (Post 745023)
F/W - Steam Men, Steam Warriors.

Have Mist Form and the Fire Shield effect to simulate the heat of the steam.

I like these. However, i dont how i would go about adding the mistform to them. Onebattlespells only work on leaders, not on stock troops ?

Any ideas ?

Gregstrom May 10th, 2010 04:39 AM

Re: looking for suggestions on crosspath summons
 
I don't think you can do a Mist Form. Ethereal would be close enough, I guess.

Ragnarok-X May 10th, 2010 12:56 PM

Re: looking for suggestions on crosspath summons
 
Can someone tell me the unit command to make a unit eat more supplies ?

In addition, how exactly does fire shield work ? Say i make it fireshield 3, how is the hit and damage calculated ? Does the attacker roll a dice if the fireshields hit him only when he attacks or does he need to hit ? What the exact formular for fireshield attack / defense and especially damage ?

I finished the N/R summon. Its called Tribal Brute and is a human-sized hulk and is basicly a human thing under too much nature/fire magic influence. It got some mutations and is now a raging brute, think werewolf x2 but more cool. Likely N2R2 or N3R2.

kianduatha May 10th, 2010 01:22 PM

Re: looking for suggestions on crosspath summons
 
Amusingly enough, Gluttony is done by giving the creature a negative #supplybonus.

Fire shield deals # ap damage every time someone attacks the target(no roll to hit), but reduced by 1 for every unit of the attacking weapon's length. So your example of fireshield 3 would deal...-1 ap damage to a militia hitting the unit with a spear.

Tribal Brute sounds just about right--I'm looking forwards to seeing it in practice.


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