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I'll set-up when I get home from work (6:00 PM EST) for the Ermor bloodletting. Do I need a password or anything?

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That's good of you to offer Sandman, and I think probably I'll want you to do something with those gems. If we do find a sub for Ermor, then sending them to the sub would be absolutely the most appropriate thing to do. Also, Sandman, were you an ally of Ermor, or an enemy to those he was fighting?

First, however, I need to ask those who have visibility on the Ermor position: is there any point in getting a sub? At a mere 6 provinces, it sounds like a sub will have little enough chance to inflict more damage than the AI would anyhow.

Secondly, if anyone else got any windfalls out of this, please tell us now, or PM me.

Thanks,

Hellboy

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That's good of you Jay, we'd appreciate it. I'll PM you later this evening (I'm also on PST).

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Neutral. There was a clash between us over a province which I won, but I didn't follow up the victory. Like Ermor, I was at war with Lanka, but Agartha took care of them with little help from me.

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OK, I just looked again at Frank's message, and it looks like the two recipients were Abysia and Agartha. So, if we can get both of you to send back to Ermor, along with everyone following Meglobob's policy of giving Ermor a one turn cease fire, I think that could work.

JayThomas, its certainly good of you to help us out here, it will certainly improve the game to have an active player in this not so very strong position.

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I don't really see why you'd want to give the gems away. Certainly there is no need or obligation to do so? There is nothing wrong with a nation on the verge of defeat giving their gems to whoever they like.

The bad blood Frank has caused should make no difference with regards to the gems.

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I agree with Teraswaearto. In every MP game I have been in, someone on the verge of defeat has given gems to allies or enemies of an enemy. Never once has anyone asked that the gems be distributed amongst players.

If a sub is found for Ermor, I think it would be nice for the benefiting nations to give the gems to the new player, but certainly not required.

Ultimately, I think this is up to Agartha and Abysia.

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My notion was just that the Ermor position was being sabotaged . When it comes right down to it, I really don't have a strong opinion on the question, but since it looks like we have a sub for Ermor, he should have a voice on this.

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Considering the gems were Ermor's to begin with, I wouldn't mind getting them back for my feeble attempt at greatness.

Unless you all are very afraid! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/wink.gif

(In any event, the one-turn cease fire is greatly appreciated.)

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I have not seen the current turn, so i don't know what was sent to me, but since it was part of a temper tantrum I will send it back if JT is subbing or destroy it otherwise.

Wills can be ok in some circumstances (long alliances, dog-piles etc), but in general i think they are unfair to the many other players who have nothing to do with the local situation.