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May 25th, 2004 04:16 PM

Re: Deception
 
Just a little reminder. If this topic strays too far from the anonymous or accusational then it will be locked.

DLC May 25th, 2004 04:43 PM

Re: Deception
 
i wouldn't put it past anyone having faking his/her/its persona to do it once again.

mr.white May 25th, 2004 05:05 PM

Re: Deception
 
I have a hard time taking all this seriously.

Stormbinder May 25th, 2004 05:32 PM

Re: Deception
 
Quote:

Originally posted by DLC:
i wouldn't put it past anyone having faking his/her/its persona to do it once again.
<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Indeed.

Gandalf Parker May 25th, 2004 05:33 PM

Re: Deception
 
The game has limited diplomacy. But the players have worked around that by bringing the diplomacy into the virtual world outside the game (email, irc, instant messaging).

The game has limited spying ability. Someone brought that out into the virtual world by creating a kindof embassy spy persona. In my abilities as a system administrator there are some things I could do to fight that but it doesnt seem like that big a deal. I dont LIKE it, but I would say that it is now part of the game that people will have to beware of.

However, I will use the full force of my abilitys if anyone brings assassins out into the virtual world. You might laugh but as a white-hat security hacker I can very well see the capabilitys to remove a player from the game using the types of methods we use against black-hats, trolls, and spammers.

So for bringing game-actions into the rest of VR its diplomates=kewl, prophets=fine, spys=not kewl, assassins=will be hunted down and destroyed, and of course only Shrapnel and Illwinter get to be pretenders outside the game. Maedads are optional http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

[ May 25, 2004, 16:35: Message edited by: Gandalf Parker ]

Norfleet May 25th, 2004 06:06 PM

Re: Deception
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Gandalf Parker:
However, I will use the full force of my abilitys if anyone brings assassins out into the virtual world. You might laugh but as a white-hat security hacker I can very well see the capabilitys to remove a player from the game using the types of methods we use against black-hats, trolls, and spammers.
<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">I don't think hacking or actually killing the other player is a very constructive exercise for the game at all, since if you disable a player entirely, you can't exactly host the game if he can't send in his turn.

Taliesin May 25th, 2004 06:06 PM

Re: Deception
 
I know this is slightly off the topic but has anyone noted that the poll results give equal 115%?

Karacan May 25th, 2004 06:54 PM

Re: Deception
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Norfleet:
I don't think hacking or actually killing the other player is a very constructive exercise for the game at all, since if you disable a player entirely, you can't exactly host the game if he can't send in his turn.
<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Why not? So he's stalling, which shouldn't be an issue if you have a regular hosting schedule or are playing it the pbem way.

What is an issue, however, is that you deprive yourself from the ultimate goal of playing games at all: The deep, personal satisfaction of being able to openly gloat at your opponent's defeat (or worse, to congratulate him on being a good sport and claiming "It's all a game and of no consequence" - so you beat him and it didn't even matter to you...).

While you can gloat openly about having been able to remove your opponent from the game (assuming a non-terminal solution), it is often unwise to do so due to the likely illegal nature of the removing...


Oh, and the poll allows multiple choices by each person, Talisien. That means there's more selected choices going around than people having voted.

Stormbinder May 25th, 2004 07:55 PM

Re: Deception
 
Quote:

Originally posted by DLC:
i wouldn't put it past anyone having faking his/her/its persona to do it once again.
<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">*nod*

Exactly.

[ May 25, 2004, 18:56: Message edited by: Stormbinder ]

Stormbinder May 25th, 2004 08:08 PM

Re: Deception
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Taliesin:
I know this is slightly off the topic but has anyone noted that the poll results give equal 115%?
<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Yes, that's because Reverend allowed more than one answer to be submitted. Although I suspect most pollers do not reilize this fact since it sounds somewhat countintuitive with his current 3 options.


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