Re: "A Song of Ice and Fire", veterans-only game, MA. Closed, uploading pretenders.
 

I can play Graeme's turns. Let me know what your tactics were going to be if you want to take me up on it Graeme.

Also, a copy of a post I just made in the EDM thread:

"As Corwin pointed out (thanks Corwin!) the version number of v1.1 was still listed within dominions as v1.04. I've fixed that now in the attachment to the first post. The error will not cause any compatibility problems as I understand it - if different players in the same game have the mod with or without the fix then I think they will still be fine."

Re: "A Song of Ice and Fire", veterans-only game, MA. Closed, uploading pretenders.
 

You are most welcome Llamabeast. I am sure you've heard it countless times by now, but you have made a great job with this mod. I've been lurking on your mod thread, following many tweaks and abjustments you've made. Having tried it in a test SP game I can't wait to try your new creatures in a real MP game. 2 games in which I am playing, plus this one I am orginzing, all use this mod of yours.

I have small concern that few of these creatures may still be a little bit too powerful for their gemcost/reseach level, but it is minor thing. All and all - very well done, both from thematic/artistic point of view and from the game balance perspective.

Re: "A Song of Ice and Fire", veterans-only game, MA. Closed, uploading pretenders.
 

9/13 pretenders uploaded. Still missing:

2. Aethyr - Ulm
3. Squirreloid - Pangeya
10. Ghoul31 - Agartha
13. Iainuki - Bandar Log

Re: "A Song of Ice and Fire", veterans-only game, MA. Closed, uploading pretenders.
 

Sorry, working on it. There was car drama yesterday.

Re: "A Song of Ice and Fire", veterans-only game, MA. Closed, uploading pretenders.
 

Was it a car accident? Are you ok?

Re: "A Song of Ice and Fire", veterans-only game, MA. Closed, uploading pretenders.
 

Just some brain damage, which he had already. No biggee.

Let's go people. This game has languished too long.

Re: "A Song of Ice and Fire", veterans-only game, MA. Closed, uploading pretenders.
 

Might be a silly question, but where can I grab the map? Found it uploaded at lamaserver but couldn't see a download link.

Re: "A Song of Ice and Fire", veterans-only game, MA. Closed, uploading pretenders.
 

I was just told by few of our players in IRC channel that we don't need map files, since IH only modified .map file, which has been uploaded to the server and that players do not need. The .tga file we all have, since it is standard Cradle of Dominion .tga file.

Since I have no experience with map creation/modding, I am relying on thier words. If anybody here have different opinion or info on this subject please say so now. But for now according to what I've heard we should be fine.

Two players left who need to upload their pretenders:

2. Aethyr - Ulm
13. Iainuki - Bandar Log

PMs have been sent.

Re: "A Song of Ice and Fire", veterans-only game, MA. Closed, uploading pretenders.
 

I'll have mine in soon.

Re: "A Song of Ice and Fire", veterans-only game, MA. Closed, uploading pretenders.
 

Mostly just drama. Nothing involved the car moving when said drama occurred.

Re: "A Song of Ice and Fire", veterans-only game, MA. Closed, uploading pretenders.
 

Did the car get arrested for shoplifting or knocked up by the bad-boy honda down the road?

Re: "A Song of Ice and Fire", veterans-only game, MA. Closed, uploading pretenders.
 

if by arrested you mean I spent hours in a mechanics waiting for them to look at the alternator, then sure. Its kind of like being in jail for a few hours.

Re: "A Song of Ice and Fire", veterans-only game, MA. Closed, uploading pretenders.
 

The Song has begun!

Re: "A Song of Ice and Fire", veterans-only game, MA. Closed, uploading pretenders.
 

Umm, it's a slow song :)

Re: "A Song of Ice and Fire", veterans-only game, MA. Closed, uploading pretenders.
 

That means it's more romantic.

Re: "A Song of Ice and Fire", veterans-only game, MA. Closed, uploading pretenders.
 

Let it be known that Knife Bright Insight, True and Righteous God of the World, has generously and for a limited time extended the offer of total subjugation and complete obedience to any false idols with the foresight to grovel before Him.

Offers of obseqious subserviance may be sent to:
attn: Prophet of the True God
1313 Iron Woods Lane,
Jotunheim

Re: "A Song of Ice and Fire", veterans-only game, MA. Closed, uploading pretenders.
 

There's a new Song of Ice and Fire artwork book coming out this fall, if anyone is interested. The first edition was quite good, though out of print now.

Most of the new artwork came from the board game. You'll have to wait for the HBO series :)

Re: "A Song of Ice and Fire", veterans-only game, MA. Closed, uploading pretenders.
 

I'm going to be absent from the 9th to the 11th, would appreciate a short delay of the game.

Re: "A Song of Ice and Fire", veterans-only game, MA. Closed, uploading pretenders.
 

All right, I'll increase the timer accordingly.

Re: "A Song of Ice and Fire", veterans-only game, MA. Closed, uploading pretenders.
 

Thanks, I'll be sure to send off whatever turn we're on before I head off.

Re: "A Song of Ice and Fire", veterans-only game, MA. Closed, uploading pretenders.
 

Hello everyone, I'm the new Ermor player, stepping in instead of Militarist.

Re: "A Song of Ice and Fire", veterans-only game, MA. Closed, uploading pretenders.
 

Welcome, Executor.

Re: "A Song of Ice and Fire", veterans-only game, MA. Closed, uploading pretenders.
 

Hello Executor, it's been a while since we've played together. Welcome!

Re: "A Song of Ice and Fire", veterans-only game, MA. Closed, uploading pretenders.
 

New turn.

Re: "A Song of Ice and Fire", veterans-only game, MA. Closed, uploading pretenders.
 

Thanks Lingchih, Aethyr.

That was the weirdest battle I've ever seen...

Re: "A Song of Ice and Fire", veterans-only game, MA. Closed, uploading pretenders.
 

If anyone is interested in dwarven hammers, you can contact our dwarves and we'll make you one really fast. The cost is 7E + 7(E, F, N), F and N are preferred.

Re: "A Song of Ice and Fire", veterans-only game, MA. Closed, uploading pretenders.
 

That's not a bad deal at all. We'll keep it in mind.

Re: "A Song of Ice and Fire", veterans-only game, MA. Closed, uploading pretenders.
 

The nation of Pythium would like to aquire a small quantity of earth gems (10-15). We can offer astral, air, nature, water, death or fire gems in return.

Re: "A Song of Ice and Fire", veterans-only game, MA. Closed, uploading pretenders.
 

Hmm. Our first stale... on turn 12, at 48 hour host! Methinks that's not a good sign.

Re: "A Song of Ice and Fire", veterans-only game, MA. Closed, uploading pretenders.
 

Well, I don't know. 13 players, 12 turns, 1 stale total. I think it's pretty good, don't see any bad omens.

Anyway, I got a request from PriestMan to delay next hosting until Monday night. The timer has been abjusted accordingly.

Re: "A Song of Ice and Fire", veterans-only game, MA. Closed, uploading pretenders.
 

Sorry about that folks. Took extremely ill over the weekend and literally couldn't get out of bed. Only thing I had on my mind was icky pain and, strangely, Daleks (I blame my girlfriend's thing for The Doctor on that one). I'll look over my situation to see if it's salvagable if I can today, or you can go on without me.

Re: "A Song of Ice and Fire", veterans-only game, MA. Closed, uploading pretenders.
 

Sorry to hear about your sickness Fakeymcfake. :( Get well soon!

Hopefully you'll be able to continue - it's just one missed turn, and I don't think you are in war with anybody. Personally I have no problem with delaying hosting time for as long as needed. (currently it is scheduled to host tonight, but it can be easily postponed)

Re: "A Song of Ice and Fire", veterans-only game, MA. Closed, uploading pretenders.
 

Odd, I thought I would have missed more than that. What's our current hosting time at?

Re: "A Song of Ice and Fire", veterans-only game, MA. Closed, uploading pretenders.
 

48h, ie, painfully slow (unless you happen to be really sick)

Re: "A Song of Ice and Fire", veterans-only game, MA. Closed, uploading pretenders.
 

We are on 48h host. I've added some time to the host for the current turn on request of another player, who was travelling over the weekend. So you've only missed one turn.

The game is currently set to forcehost at around midnight tonight (PST). Would you like me to bump up the hosting time?

Re: "A Song of Ice and Fire", veterans-only game, MA. Closed, uploading pretenders.
 

The nation of Pythium would like to buy one or two items from the following selection - shroud of battle saint (preferrable) or ring of regeneration.

We need to aquire them in the next 4 turns, preferably next 3 turns. Please let us know if you are able to forge them (or will be able to soon) and we will arrange some gem or item deal.

Re: "A Song of Ice and Fire", veterans-only game, MA. Closed, uploading pretenders.
 

three guesses what that's for. Not an S5 arch therug that's diseased i hope? :)

Re: "A Song of Ice and Fire", veterans-only game, MA. Closed, uploading pretenders.
 

No, just regular theurgs. But still I would rather save them if I can, if it won't cost me too much.

Re: "A Song of Ice and Fire", veterans-only game, MA. Closed, uploading pretenders.
 

No, my turn went fast enough, no worries on my end.

Re: "A Song of Ice and Fire", veterans-only game, MA. Closed, uploading pretenders.
 

Mmm. Game too slow. Lingchih loses interest. Too many take advantage of the early 48 hour host.

Re: "A Song of Ice and Fire", veterans-only game, MA. Closed, uploading pretenders.
 

Seriously, Ling is right.

Nostalgia was running turns every 12h for the first like 24 turns, and that was with all of EA Pan (massive maenad spam), LA R, LA E, and a crazy EA Aby that may have been as much micro as the three of those put together. Needing 48h this early is pretty sad, bar extenuating circumstances. Could the laggards pick up the pace a little bit?

Re: "A Song of Ice and Fire", veterans-only game, MA. Closed, uploading pretenders.
 

Personally I am ok with decreasing hosting time for a while, but it is really up to you guys. I haven't been the last one to take turn yet, and usually I do it quickly, within 24 hours or less after hosting.

However I am a bit concerned that if we decrease timer at this point it may pose problem for some people. I like how we have been completely stale-less (with one exception) up until now, despite pretty large map and 13 players.

Like Squierrloid and Ling said - if those players who are often among the last ones to submit their turn could pickup their pace a bit it would be great.


Fortunately we are on the turn 13 already, so as turns taking longer and becoming more complicated, the current 48h hosting will feel better.

Re: "A Song of Ice and Fire", veterans-only game, MA. Closed, uploading pretenders.
 

I'm in two other major/intense games and do not want hosting time decreased.

I would like to buy Bracers of Protection and/or Hammers. I understand that earth gems are dear, and I do not have any - so I am willing to pay a modest premium in nature, death, blood, gold or diplomatic considerations for these items.

Re: "A Song of Ice and Fire", veterans-only game, MA. Closed, uploading pretenders.
 

I'm out folks, Ermor broke my only army and Van is crawling up my backside. I honestly don't really feel like playing out the turns in a game where I barely got started so I'm going AI. So, luck all, and feel free to give either of the above nations a good kicking while they're distracted.

Re: "A Song of Ice and Fire", veterans-only game, MA. Closed, uploading pretenders.
 

Nice. Now this pace is much better. Even if we are still on 48 hour, it seems we are getting turns done in a timely manner now. Thanks.

Re: "A Song of Ice and Fire", veterans-only game, MA. Closed, uploading pretenders.
 

Ouch! Sorry about your tough luck in this game Fakeymcfake.

I wonder if perhaps you could at least play for few more turns? You still have relatively large nation, it's a lot of territory suddenly up for grabs if you go to AI immideatly. You don't have to spend much time on your turns at all, just enough to make your neighboring nations work a little bit before gobbling up your entire territory, as they will instantly do if you go AI, since it can't resist at all. Not to mention you could have the last stand in your castle, should you choose so. Even if you won't be able to recover, it would be much better for the game balance, then to have still pretty large nation suddenly go AI so early in the game.

Of course it's your call Fakeymcfake.

Re: "A Song of Ice and Fire", veterans-only game, MA. Closed, uploading pretenders.
 

Hmm. Did you ever sign the Baalz "Good Player Pledge" post, Fakey? Let's see.. oh, it seems you did. And by bowing out, with cap intact, high research, and troops available, it seems you have violated that agreement.

Fakey is banned from any further MP games, then. Lingchih has witnessed. Let others speak their mind.

Re: "A Song of Ice and Fire", veterans-only game, MA. Closed, uploading pretenders.
 

Lingchih, seriously? It's turn, what, 12? I'm not leaving the game with a nation that could do anything and I'd rather not bother play out the turns until I'm inevitably defeated. I didn't sneak off in the night, I didn't stop playing suddenly when things could still go my way.

If you want I could post for a sub and delay the game further so that someone else can play out the last half a dozen turns until I'm defeated utterly.

Seriously Ling, take a moment, you'll probably realize that what I've done isn't anything worth getting worked up about.

And Corwin, I considered it but my army is such that even if I went for a last stand it'd be a pathetic one. I was caught with my pants down and I wouldn't be able to stop either Van or Ermor (my only two neighbours) from taking my provinces without any resistance anyhow. It's a serious no-win scenario and not worth playing out, even for the purpose of balance as anything I could do the AI would be able to do anyhow.

Re: "A Song of Ice and Fire", veterans-only game, MA. Closed, uploading pretenders.
 

I have to disagree with these arguments Fakeymcfake. Based upon graphs it is clear that you still had a a lot of provinces, some soldiers, a lot of mages, and great reseach. In fact your reseach and number of mages still left are such that you are less then 1 turn behing the top reseach nation in the game! You clearly accumulated some gems, that could be used to do some cheap (with CMB mod) summons. It would be at least 2 more turns before Vanheim would reach your capital, even if they beelined to it and met no resistance. And more turns until they would broke down the walls. Also it will be at least 4-5 turns before your empire will be overrun, even if you would offer no resistance, simply because the size of it. All and all - plenty of time to orginize a decent last stand, if not defence of the realm. Even basic setup of several dozens of firemages raining death on fire-unprotected troops of Vanheim or Ermor, while they are tryign to squeeze though castle gates of your capital? Very nasty.

And of course AI can not be even remotely compared to the human in its efficiency. And it can't make a last stand for the life of it, not in the situation like the one when you have quit. It'll simply waste its resources in piecemeal fashion trying to protect its empire, instead of concentrating and building up its remaining strength during whatever time left, to delay inviders and make them pay for taking your castles, if nothing else.

You are right, your situation was probably hopeless. But Baalz's good player's pledge, as well as the rules of this particular game, displayed on the first page of this thread (*Not* giving up without a fight - meaning of course, fight to the bitter end or at least until very close to it), strongly discourage quiting in such situation.

So personally I can't help but think you have quited way too early. But it's your call of course.

Re: "A Song of Ice and Fire", veterans-only game, MA. Closed, uploading pretenders.
 

The Empire of Abysia is hereby annexed in the name of the one true Pretender Tizhyarshtay.
Our Mighty Empire lays claim to the lands of Abysia, all hostile acts towards this nations are to be stopped, noncompliance will be considered an act of war.