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Graeme Dice March 13th, 2004 05:32 AM

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Originally posted by Norfleet:
Maybe you can cast Twiceborn on your indy mages, so when they bite it they'll come back as Wight Mages or Lichcraft(how DOES that spell work?) and be immune.
<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Lichcraft summons an undead, death 4 mage.

Taqwus March 13th, 2004 06:50 PM

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Undead, /immortal/ death-4 demilich mage. It lacks the ghost-summoning ability and innate equipment of the Wraith Lord, however; different summons for different purposes.

Evil Dave March 14th, 2004 11:21 PM

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Originally posted by Zen:
What exactly are you looking for advise?
<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Two things: how best to expand the dominion, and how to deal with its effects on indie specialists.

To make good use of Miasma, it needs to spread, which means a high dominion score. There are two ways of getting that: spend points when designing a pretender, or build temples. I've done fairly well by starting with dominion 9, but I'm not sure the reduced scales and magic are worth the cost.

OTOH, since the dominion does give a (slight) income bonus, it seems that building lots of temples might not be so bad. But I haven't done well starting with, say, dominion 7 and building from there. So that's the first question: how much dominion to start with?

The second question is what to do with indie troops and specialists? Miasma slowly grinds them down, so they become much less cost effective than normal. Think sages are still useful, but I'm less sure about archers (for example), which I usually recruit for C'tis.

Zurai March 15th, 2004 02:33 AM

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If you want to use indies as Miasma C'tis, make a beeline for Gift of Health. That'll keep the disease from killing 99% of your units.

Reanimator March 16th, 2004 11:30 PM

Re: uhm,,playing C\'tis ?!?
 
Because of this thread I just started playing C'tis. Thanks for the tips, made crushing the AI easy as pie.

tinkthank March 17th, 2004 05:11 PM

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Originally posted by Argitoth:
</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Originally posted by Norfleet:
Yeah, but assassinations are kinda random. What do you do if a province contains a mixture of these types, and you have no idea what victim you're going to draw in advance?

<font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">Equip your assassin with a skull staff and hope for the best. </font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="sans-serif, arial, verdana">That answer confuses me. I thought you were the Head Honcho Tuchus-Kickin C'tis Specialist -- and a Skull staff + hope is your answer to Norfleet's (justified) question?

The beauty of a nation with an assassin and natural necromancers when up against lots of commanders so you dont know what you are going to get is... in my humble opinion...
A wraith crown. Hands down. For such circumstances, I either keep his HANDS FREE for dual-shields (lucky coin and shield of your choice if you are going caster-liz) or at least one shield and order to buff then summon then fire rearmost (combat-liz).
Well just my two cents.

Wendigo March 17th, 2004 06:10 PM

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A Wraith crown is too big of an investment for an assasin that might as well get discovered and end up facing the full enemy army on his own. That wraith crown will then become a nice gift to your enemy when recovered from the body of your assasin.

Generally speaking, if you have to spend more in your assasin that the value of his likely victim then you should consider investing your coin & gems elsewhere.

tinkthank March 17th, 2004 06:15 PM

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Agreed.
But it depends entirely on what you mean by "value". I have taken out (non-SC) pretenders with Slayers equipped with nothing but a Lifelong Protection. Hard to judge the "value" of a Wraith crown, but 40 gems isnt all that much if I have plenty, and I really want to screw up his logistics. But of course I wouldnt go with this investment all the time...

Wendigo March 17th, 2004 06:27 PM

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Of course a pretender is a valuable target, but what's your chance of randomly targetting him on your 1st attack among the 30 or so commanders in his army? And once you have shown your cards your opponent will be ready for further attempts: expect scout chaff, heavy patrolling & assorted traps for your assasin.

Personally, I find a barrage of assasinating spells much more cost-effective & flexible than knife-in-the-back assasination, at least in MP.


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