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Meglobob December 16th, 2007 03:07 PM

Re: Balance opinions
 
Quote:

Morkilus said:I was initially turned off by the MA Ermor priest nerf, but I realized once the "huge army of skeletal cavalry" strategy was better than, well... anything else, I couldn't agree more with it. It is instinctual to hate nerfs.

Lowering MA Ermors priest levels really hurts the nation.

A better solution would perhaps be to reduce the number of undead horseman reanimated from 5 (currently I think for a lvl3 priest), to 2 or 3 if this is possible.

Morkilus December 16th, 2007 03:21 PM

Re: Balance opinions
 
I'm almost certain reanimation isn't moddable, and that would affect the other reanimating nations as well if you could do it. Yeah, it kinda sucks, but I've tried it and Ermor seems to work on the same level as they did in Dom2. With recruitable Shadow Vestals, you could hardly call them weak.

Twan December 16th, 2007 03:25 PM

Re: Balance opinions
 
Using a #makemonster "Longdead Horseman" for unholy priests may do the trick if needed (don't have an opinion on this). They simply would have to use "summon allies" instead of "reanimation" for them.


DrPraetorious December 16th, 2007 03:46 PM

Re: Balance opinions
 
That would work, but this is one of the other nerfs with which I simply disagree - I've never found the undead horsemen to be so overpowering that it needed nerfing.

Now, MA Ermor *can* use those undead horsemen to propogate an already strong position - if you can get away with losing the research.

But there are lots of nations that can exploit early strength in a similar way.

Meglobob December 16th, 2007 04:04 PM

Re: Balance opinions
 
Edit due to inaccuracy! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/image...es/redface.gif

Morkilus December 16th, 2007 04:22 PM

Re: Balance opinions
 
Umm... you don't lose population when you reanimate longdead. What else were you doing?

Meglobob December 16th, 2007 04:31 PM

Re: Balance opinions
 
Quote:

Morkilus said:
Umm... you don't lose population when you reanimate longdead. What else were you doing?

Opps sorry, my bad, edited my previous post!

Reverend Zombie December 18th, 2007 06:36 PM

Re: Balance opinions
 
Reasons I don't play CBM, in addition to the "gotchas" mentioned above, are a few balance and theme disagreements.

Things I don't care for are the hoof attack for light cavalry, the nerf to the Dagon, and the fact that the one thing that should be de-nerfed--the VQ--is not de-nerfed enough.

KissBlade December 18th, 2007 08:02 PM

Re: Balance opinions
 
I don't think Dragons need to be nerfed either since they were more or less the early expansion chassis for crappy early game nations. Light cavalries really really sucked though without the hoof. Heck they're not even that great with it ...

quantum_mechani December 18th, 2007 08:06 PM

Re: Balance opinions
 
He said Dagon not Dragon (dragons are untouched by CB).


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