Re: [OT] Another heated discussion about the Iraq siutation, war and politics.
 

I had a look at the link, but there was nothing contrary to startfor's article. In fact the 2 complement each others quite well.

Re: [OT] Another heated discussion about the Iraq siutation, war and politics.
 

Revisited opinion.

I stumbled into this passage
<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">As if the invasion was versus an ethnical group (the Sunni), while the Kurds were just cannon fooder for the Turc. This part is especially avoiding the difficult part of US policie between their need of Kurds and their need of Turkey to access the Balkans.

As a whole, I was not impressed by that website, so I'll keep on with stratfor which seems much more serious in its work.

Re: [OT] Another heated discussion about the Iraq siutation, war and politics.
 

Very powerful first person article from a war protester:

http://assyrianchristians.com/i_was_wrong_mar_26_03.htm

"`What in the world do you mean?` I asked. `How could you not want peace?` `We don't want peace. We want the war to come` he continued."

"`Look at it this way. No matter how bad it is we will not all die. We have hoped for some other way but nothing has worked. 12 years ago it went almost all the way but failed. We cannot wait anymore. We want the war and we want it now`"

Re: [OT] Another heated discussion about the Iraq siutation, war and politics.
 

Thermodyne: When writing an "end-message" to this discussion, you should take a neutral position... http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

R.

Re: [OT] Another heated discussion about the Iraq siutation, war and politics.
 

<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Says you!

This was a very soft post from the likes of me. I could have been much more harsh. But for me the enjoyment is in the debate, not the result.

Re: [OT] Another heated discussion about the Iraq siutation, war and politics.
 

<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Says you!

This was a very soft post from the likes of me. I could have been much more harsh. But for me the enjoyment is in the debate, not the result.</font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Hey Thermo, you was Soft again! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif You should have wrote "fight" instead "debate", I think! http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/icons/icon7.gif

Re: [OT] Another heated discussion about the Iraq siutation, war and politics.
 

What about the WMDs? That's what all the warmongers said this war was about - we couldn't wait for the inspectors because Saddam had hundreds of labs ready to give us all Anthrax or whatever. Now I am reading long diatribes about saving Iraqis from dictators and WMD being incidental. Where is the integrity?

I for one don't want to pay taxes to "liberate" anyone from his or her life. What about African countries there are lots of WORSE dictators their - I don't see anyone clamoring to invade Nigeria for instance. What happened to giving the Afghanis a better life? It looks like the Taliban are back. This is hypocrisy at its most blatant!!

Dare I say this war was about Oil after all. I just found out that Saddam had shut out U.S. and British oil companies from Iraqi oil contracts - kind of coincidental that these are the two countries that invaded.

[ April 10, 2003, 19:49: Message edited by: rextorres ]

Re: [OT] Another heated discussion about the Iraq siutation, war and politics.
 

People that support the war are not necessarily war-mongers. A war-monger is someone that always wants war, no matter what. Most people that have supported this war are not war-mongers. I suggest you apologize for using that term Rex. Its connotations are highly insulting.

[ April 10, 2003, 20:24: Message edited by: Imperator Fyron ]

Re: [OT] Another heated discussion about the Iraq siutation, war and politics.
 

<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">I didn't say everyone that supported the war was a warmonger - read my post. But, now that you mention it - it does seem that most people who wanted this war - wanted this war "no matter what". Why else would their rational for supporting the war shift?

Re: [OT] Another heated discussion about the Iraq siutation, war and politics.
 

I can't speak for everybody, but my reasons for supporting the decision to go to war did not shift. It's always been about removing the threat that Saddam posed to our nation. The fact that the Iraqi people are liberated from a oppresive murderous regime is a very nice consequence of the actions taken.

Geoschmo