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Graeme Dice February 12th, 2006 07:36 PM

MP Game. CB Mod. Random Nations.
 
Having not played a MP game in months, I'd like to get one one more in before Dom3 is released. For this game, I'd like to randomly distribute each of the nations to the potential players. We will be using the latest version of the Conceptual Balance mod, and there are no house rules. We will be playing on a map with no more than 15 provinces per player. Turns will

The game conditions will be:
Map: 10-15 provinces per player.
Magic Sites: 50%
Independents: 6
Renaming on
Standard Research
No house rules
48 hr quickhost
The winning condition will be to control a number of victory points equal to the number of players. Each capital will count as a victory point. There will be a number of other victory points spread around the map. The amount of these victory points that are spread around the map will be one less than the total number of players.

Current players:
Graeme
Peacekeeper
WraithLord
Turms
Folket
OG_Gleep
Cainehill

The server is up at:
ip:68.148.13.231
port:10101

Cainehill February 12th, 2006 09:51 PM

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Random nations, but not anonymous? Might be fun.

Graeme Dice February 13th, 2006 12:47 AM

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Quote:

Cainehill said:
Random nations, but not anonymous? Might be fun.

The problem with fully anonymous play is that somebody has to know who is playing what race, so unless we can get a third party that's not playing to make the selection, it won't work.

Of course, I also happen to like the diplomacy, and the in-game communication system doesn't work particularly well.

Peacekeeper February 13th, 2006 12:59 AM

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sign me up.

WraithLord February 13th, 2006 06:31 AM

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48h quickhost.
Random nations.

Sign me up http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

Turms February 13th, 2006 07:01 AM

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Very nice settings. It's half a year since I last played any MP Dominions. I would like sign up. I just hope I don't get Machaka again (had it in the last 2 games).

Turms

Folket February 13th, 2006 07:01 AM

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I like it, sign me up.

OG_Gleep February 13th, 2006 10:05 PM

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I'll play. I need to learn new nations.

Graeme Dice February 14th, 2006 03:04 PM

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We now have seven potential players, which is just about the right number to get started.

OG_Gleep February 14th, 2006 08:48 PM

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I'm ready whenever.

Graeme Dice February 15th, 2006 07:59 PM

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I'll be starting this game Tuesday evening, with however many players have signed up by that point.

Graeme Dice February 21st, 2006 07:19 PM

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The players and their nations are:
Graeme: Ulm
Cainehill: Pythium
OG_Gleep: Pangaea
Peacekeeper: Ermor
Wraithlord: T'ien C'hi
Turms: Machaka
Folket: C'tis

I'll set the server up tonight.

Cainehill February 21st, 2006 07:42 PM

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Pythium? Whoot, ain't played them in like a year. Cool. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

RonD February 21st, 2006 08:46 PM

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Quote:

Turms said:
Very nice settings. It's half a year since I last played any MP Dominions. I would like sign up. I just hope I don't get Machaka again (had it in the last 2 games).

Turms

Quote:

Graeme Dice said:
The players and their nations are:
Turms: Machaka


http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/eek.gif
Let me know what lottery numbers you play - I will be sure to never, ever choose them.

Graeme Dice February 22nd, 2006 12:19 AM

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Log in at 68.148.13.231 port:10101

Have any suggested maps that are between 70 and 105 provinces?

Cainehill February 22nd, 2006 02:11 AM

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Eh - Cirlani, Aran, and Chandrea (versions between 94 and 103 provinces,), and Saephi is close (124).

Still somewhat of a dearth of maps in that range, sadly. My vote would be for one of the Chandreas, you'd probably want to edit slightly to remove existing VPs and, I think, mages.

Cainehill February 22nd, 2006 03:03 AM

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Oh - when is the desired start time? Hopefully not for a couple days, given that we all have random nations to construct a pretender for.

Graeme Dice February 22nd, 2006 03:33 AM

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I don't plan to start it till the weekend, unless everybody is ready before hand.

OG_Gleep February 22nd, 2006 11:53 AM

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Awesome, always wanted to try Pangea.

Turms February 22nd, 2006 06:08 PM

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Quote:

RonD said:
Quote:

Turms said:
Very nice settings. It's half a year since I last played any MP Dominions. I would like sign up. I just hope I don't get Machaka again (had it in the last 2 games).

Turms

Quote:

Graeme Dice said:
The players and their nations are:
Turms: Machaka


http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/eek.gif
Let me know what lottery numbers you play - I will be sure to never, ever choose them.

Damn, it just had to be Machaka.

Well I am am happy to play anyways http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

OG_Gleep February 22nd, 2006 06:11 PM

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Ok my excitment on Pangea has turned to fear after playing around with them for the last couple hours.

What is richness going to be set to?

Graeme Dice February 22nd, 2006 08:12 PM

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Normal richness.

Graeme Dice February 22nd, 2006 08:28 PM

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Quote:

OG_Gleep said:
Ok my excitment on Pangea has turned to fear after playing around with them for the last couple hours.

Check how much sloth you can afford while using centaur warriors.

OG_Gleep February 22nd, 2006 09:32 PM

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Sloth, death, and Turmoil are out if you plan to use anything other than satyrs with CB mod. Its not so big a deal in Vanilla, but it seems silly to spend all those points for Order, only to come out with a net gain of 3% per lvl. Both Production/Sloth and Growth/Death have a 4% impact on income while Order/Turmoil has a 7%.
Heat/Cold has almost as big of an impact as Order/Turmoil does. It would have to be luck (and I really like Luck) or Magic, which isn't appealing because of their low reasearch potential.

With regular richness its even more important to have no negatives towards your income.

Cainehill February 25th, 2006 03:52 AM

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Has a map been decided on? I'm still experimenting with pretenders. ( Britain is another map in the desired # of provinces, but has anyone _ever_ played on that map? The colors are horrible, since Dom2 you can't change province lines. )

OG_Gleep February 25th, 2006 06:00 AM

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I tried out Cirilani, and its pretty cool. If we go that route, I'd suggest lower indy strength. Some of the indies can be pretty brutal.

castigated February 25th, 2006 06:09 AM

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not sure how you guys feel about this, but if you assign me a nation, i will super-quick test it and upload right away....i've been out of town, but am back to stay now...

not sure if you already have it all preset, and if so, no worries, i understand, but i'd be down for another game http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

either way, goodluck everyone!

Cainehill February 25th, 2006 12:30 PM

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Quote:

OG_Gleep said:
I tried out Cirilani, and its pretty cool. If we go that route, I'd suggest lower indy strength. Some of the indies can be pretty brutal.

True, and Cirlani is one of those maps that you fairly often wind up with only two neighboring provinces - having knights in one and say, blood druids in the other can mess up your expansion. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/wink.gif

Edit : Actually I'd vote against Cirlani for these number of players. Inevitably a player or two will get stuck on the narrow strip of land at the bottom, which kinda screws them compared to anyone starting in the northwest with lots of room to expand.

So - I'd suggest Chandrea (with out the wizards & armies, since everyone would have to redo pretenders) as first recommendation, or Saephi or the latest version of Zen's modded Aran map ( lots of provinces #nostarted, and population / richness made more balanced).

Oh! Actually, the Ringworld map might be perfect, and even interesting - a flat skinny wraparound map with 106 provinces, so _everyone_ is going to butt heads with 2 empires simultaneously. And there's even a small version for people who don't have broadband.

Peacekeeper February 25th, 2006 11:17 PM

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I like to idea of ringworld, ive wanted to try that map since seeing it.

OG_Gleep February 26th, 2006 01:11 AM

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I just downloaded it. About to give it a whirl.

Folket February 26th, 2006 04:57 AM

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Let us get the game started. Seems like we can agre on ringworld.

Graeme Dice February 26th, 2006 03:06 PM

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Ringworld it is then. We're still waiting on Pythium, Pangaea and T'ien C'Hi.

Cainehill February 26th, 2006 04:53 PM

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Sorry - didn't realize IP and port had been given - might want to put that into the first post.

WraithLord February 26th, 2006 06:08 PM

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I will put my pretender in the next couple of hours.

OG_Gleep February 26th, 2006 11:03 PM

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Done and done.

Graeme Dice February 26th, 2006 11:17 PM

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Game is started. Take your turns everyone.

OG_Gleep February 26th, 2006 11:24 PM

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Ug...worst starting position ever. Guess Luck doesn't impact starting positions http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/images/smilies/happy.gif

Cainehill February 27th, 2006 01:27 AM

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Heh.

Incidentally, I'll point something out that might not be immediately obvious : the little mini-towers ( Spoke Stations ) that protrude from the top and bottom of the map aren't just graphical fluff the way the big towers, stars, novas, etc, are.

Peacekeeper February 27th, 2006 01:31 AM

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ya, they are actual provinces! what a surprise that was. too bad every single on is Wastes.

thanks og for pointing it out to me and caine for everyone else =)

Cainehill February 27th, 2006 02:03 AM

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LOL! Did OG start in one of the mini-towers??? I thought my position was bad, with only 3 neighbors, didn't see any that could be worse, but if the map-dude didn't #nostart the stations.... Guess there's room for some improvement on this map, albeit I think the concept is great.

Peacekeeper February 27th, 2006 02:31 AM

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no, he did nostart the mini-towers and any provinces adjacent to them. I have no idea where og started. In my games ive found you can start with as little as 2 adjacent provinces though, which can be a little hard on you.

Cainehill February 27th, 2006 02:40 AM

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Really? I scanned through a lot of the map looking for that, didn't notice any - did notice (and in the game, got) land provinces with only 3 land neighbors vice the usual 4 or 5, but 3 neighbors tends to be enough to be okay.

2 neighbor provinces ought to be nostarted though.

Oversway February 27th, 2006 12:52 PM

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You used ringworld?!? That map is cool but the terrain is very bad. Too many sections that are all wastes or plains. It is really easy to get a bad start.

Turms February 28th, 2006 04:29 AM

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Hello,

New turn is waiting. Actually has been for 12 hours, but the forum was broken last evening.

Good luck everyone!

Turms

OG_Gleep February 28th, 2006 04:35 AM

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Ooo I didn't know you could start with 2....Guess I'm not so bad after all.

Good luck all.

Cainehill March 1st, 2006 11:37 AM

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Quote:

Turms said:
Hello,

New turn is waiting. Actually has been for 12 hours, but the forum was broken last evening.


Bah - more like the forums were broken for 48 hours, and Shrapnel couldn't be bothered to put anything on the front page of their main site.

OG_Gleep March 1st, 2006 08:58 PM

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bastages

Peacekeeper March 2nd, 2006 12:12 AM

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sorry for the wait, the next turn has been hosted.

OG_Gleep March 7th, 2006 03:52 PM

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New turn is up

OG_Gleep March 9th, 2006 04:59 PM

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Anyone run into some VERY strong provinces?


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