Wondering on Star wars star map data
 

and B5 star map data. anybody know if/where some may be? I may try my hand at making one...or both..

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Star Wars map is commmonly avalible, but is not very detailed. The positions of Inhabited Planets are ploted and areas outlined for various areas, but actually information on Stars and systems and planets is either hard to come by or non existant.

Bab5 Map, is just our real world, (I'm working on this.) But some of the locations of colonies and alien races are a bit flaky. JMS kicks ***, but he didn't seem to care for total accuracy.

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ah, Ok. I have d'l most of the SW and ST shipsets, so I was a thinkin' .... plus having the EA and Narn....plus I have partials on AOD/AOL....

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As for ST, there are various sources that depict the layout of the Star Trek galaxy. I am making a map based off of the old federation and Empire board game, but adding in some of the later races found in STNG and DS9.

Sabre21

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There is an OK map for the Star Wars Galaxy located in the New Jedi Order books...may not be great, but it is a starting point.

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If your into star wars maps, buy a game called Rebellion. It has 200 planet names and 20 star system names. The game itself is simular in ways to SEIV, but has 3d battles.

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<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Darwin:
Bab5 Map, is just our real world, (I'm working on this.) But some of the locations of colonies and alien races are a bit flaky. JMS kicks ***, but he didn't seem to care for total accuracy.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Are you working off the map in The Babylon Project, by any chance? I have a VRML representation of most of it, but all it gives are the EA colonies, plus some surrounding Centauri, Narn, Minbari, and League systems.

It'd have to be translated somehow from its 3D representation into a flat 2D one (project it into the x-y plane, I guess), but I don't know how you'd do it without the warp point lines becoming a rat's nest.

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<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR> If your into star wars maps, buy a game called Rebellion. It has 200 planet names and 20 star system names. The game itself is simular in ways to SEIV, but has 3d battles.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>Caveat: Star Wars Rebellion is real-time, not turn-based like SE4. I enjoyed it more as a SW database than as a strategy game. The animated 3D battles also required the largest swap Cache of any game I've owned, 150M.

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150 MEGS! No wonder that thing ran so slow on my old system. Ya, it was a nice game as it had a lot of depth. (Spread sheet style. http://www.shrapnelgames.com/ubb/images/icons/icon7.gif )

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even though those battles were slow, they were great to watch unfold. My huge fleets of Star Destroyers attacking the rebel fleets with all their corvettes, frigates, dreadnoughts, etc. were some of the best computer game battles I've ever controlled/seen. http://www.shrapnelgames.com/ubb/ima...ons/icon12.gif

If SE4 had that capability then it would be even more popular than it already is. http://www.shrapnelgames.com/ubb/ima...ons/icon10.gif

along with some more realistic ground combat.

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Well, I have Star War Rebellion... and although I respect the opinions of others, I believe that was only a game for SW fanatics, because was a mediocre game.

Yea, the 3d battles were great for the time (now for example, Homeworld is much better), but the space battles were near of the 1% of the time used to play the game!
About the ground battles, are not very different of the SE4 ground battles.

I liked the RP elements in SW Rebellion, and I have played a lot this game (although their VERY WEAK AI), but, I enjoyed it because I love the SW series.
Finally, in my view, SW Rebellion have little things in common with the SE series.

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<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Str8_Gain:
Are you working off the map in The Babylon Project, by any chance? I have a VRML representation of most of it, but all it gives are the EA colonies, plus some surrounding Centauri, Narn, Minbari, and League systems.

It'd have to be translated somehow from its 3D representation into a flat 2D one (project it into the x-y plane, I guess), but I don't know how you'd do it without the warp point lines becoming a rat's nest.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

No actually, My statements were based on locations named on the show, statements made by JMS off the show and this website.
http://www.chronology.org/b-five/ic_astronomy.html

It compiles all the information on the show, and does some theories.

Star Trek is again another easy one, it uses this universe also.

Simple rule, anything that mentions a planet Earth uses the same map as we do.

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Not sure if that's a safe assumption..they could have made up stars or moved some for convenience, after all.

Phoenix-D

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<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR> Not sure if that's a safe assumption..they could have made up stars or moved some for convenience, after all.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>One example of that is the old tabletop boardgame _Federation Space_ (Task Force Games, 1981). The designer's notes point out that they deliberately distorted the map, because at the map's scale, the major worlds of the Federation would all be in a single hex, and it would take 50 years at maximum warp to reach the Klingon border.

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<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Darwin:
No actually, My statements were based on locations named on the show, statements made by JMS off the show and this website.
http://www.chronology.org/b-five/ic_astronomy.html

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Took a peek at it. I based my VRML representation (hopefully the URL works now) off the Hyperspace Route Map presented in The Babylon Project, the role-playing game based on the B5 universe. It has this map of routes (circa 2250) showing the Earth Alliance and nearby alien space in the sourcebook. As I understand it, they has to run it by JMS (and Warner Brothers) before they could release it. Now whether it's completely canon....,well that's another discussion entirely, given the general muck-up of stuff from the show, the novelizations, the other books, and the RPG.

One thing that I've noticed in the Map was that colony names and actual catalog names don't match up totally. For example, the Alliance's "Vega" colony is actually Ross 248. The Minbari Federation owns the real Vega, and named the colony Sh'lekk'tha. In other words, the "common" names aren't necessarily the same as the "catalog" names.

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http://www.geocities.com/kuatdy/downloads/Map/Map.htm

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The Babylon 5 Wars Rules Compendium is supposed to have a complete map of the major races' territory, and I'd assume it has warp lines as well. I don't have it yet (it's not cheap, and I don't play B5W anymore) so I'm not sure if it's true. The Atlas of the Narn-Centauri War has a complete map of Narn and Centaur territory, along with a few other systems. It doesn't list planets, but you can always make them up.