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Incabulos February 14th, 2009 03:57 PM

leaving water province after removing water breathing item
 
I did a few tests and as far as I can tell you can wear a water breathing item, enter a water province and the next turn remove that water breathing item and leave the province (the same turn you remove the item) and the unit doesn't drown.

I was testing this with flying troops (caelum mages) is there any reason the same wouldn't be true for landbound commanders?

Also is this WAD?

Edi February 14th, 2009 04:06 PM

Re: leaving water province after removing water breathing item
 
It is, because the effects in question are only executed upon hosting and they are only applied after the movement phase ends, so if the move was successful, no adverse effect on the commander.

lch February 14th, 2009 04:15 PM

Re: leaving water province after removing water breathing item
 
Yeah, WAD. The game only checks if a unit can enter a given province under the current circumstances during movement, not if it can leave a province. Entering land is no problem except for aquatic beings.

chrispedersen February 14th, 2009 05:17 PM

Re: leaving water province after removing water breathing item
 
Just beware that there are things that will cause you not to move.

the 'no move' random event (although, come to think of it, I've never seen it when one of the troops were in water), and being attacked will sometimes cancel your movement order.

Sucks when you drown because of it.

vfb February 14th, 2009 06:44 PM

Re: leaving water province after removing water breathing item
 
I had this situation come up where I wanted to remove a water breathing item and move out of the water in the same month. I didn't know what would happen, so I created a test game and it was fine: I removed the ring in the ocean's watery lab, and moved to a friendly province, and did not die.

But in the actual game, I removed the ring and snuck into an enemy province. And I did die from drowning. This was a while back, so it may have been patched.

http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/showthread.php?t=37515

Incabulos February 14th, 2009 07:15 PM

Re: leaving water province after removing water breathing item
 
in my test caelum attacked an enemy province from the water with the water item removed, didn't die. So either it is patched or in that event (moving to enemy territory) there is a random drown chance.

lch February 14th, 2009 07:24 PM

Re: leaving water province after removing water breathing item
 
Was there some fight in the province he tried moving away from? That might have triggered the drowning after clearing up the battlefield.

vfb February 14th, 2009 07:56 PM

Re: leaving water province after removing water breathing item
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by lch (Post 674471)
Was there some fight in the province he tried moving away from? That might have triggered the drowning after clearing up the battlefield.

Sorry, I don't remember if there was a battle in the province in that game, but if there was it would have had to have been a random event.

I just tested this again. I cannot get any unit to drown after removing water-breathing items, no matter whether the unit sneaks into an enemy province or moves into an enemy province. I didn't wait around for a random event to steal the water province from me though.

lch February 14th, 2009 08:01 PM

Re: leaving water province after removing water breathing item
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by vfb (Post 674482)
I just tested this again. I cannot get any unit to drown after removing water-breathing items, no matter whether the unit sneaks into an enemy province or moves into an enemy province. I didn't wait around for a random event to steal the water province from me though.

how bout assassinations or battles from ritual spells instead? that's easier.

vfb February 14th, 2009 08:33 PM

Re: leaving water province after removing water breathing item
 
Oooh!

Sent Ghost Riders into the province, and all units without water breathing rings that were sneaking out of the province drowned.

Agema February 19th, 2009 08:50 AM

Re: leaving water province after removing water breathing item
 
I lost a unit by handing over his waterbreathing item and leaving the seas back in about 1.15, but I can't remember the unit and circumstances. I've avoided it ever since, so this useful to know, thanks.

BesucherXia February 19th, 2009 03:52 PM

Re: leaving water province after removing water breathing item
 
I did lose my commander in a game of current version by using this trick. I can not remember the detail very clearly, but I think he was trying to invade hostile province, that could be the reason.


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