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Imp March 23rd, 2009 04:27 PM

Map Database
 
Has anyone done one?
If so can you send me as just starting one & will speed up also anyone with maps post a link here if you like & will add.

Doing for both games in excel as can get free readers fields thought of so far for easy searching in no particular order.
map no (plus MBT or WW2)
name
height
width
region (as in country)
theatre (as in area i.e. Asia, Central Europe)
Terrain 3 fields ( My idea of as in open, farmland, jungle, urban, hills, dessert, bad (mud rough swamps), water (river, beach island))
Winter
M, D>, D< ( My idea of type of random engagement good for meeting or defend.
PBEM (my idea of balance for PBEM only rating if seems good then you lot can argue modify)

Any other suggestions but this should allow sorting for say size of map country theatre terrain type or size meeting type PBEM

Note this is a long way off just started when I thought some one might have done already.
Eventual aim is to put all maps in one folder sorted by Theatre Size perhaps Terrain Type so finding a suitable map is faster.

Double_Deuce March 23rd, 2009 05:12 PM

Re: Map Database
 
Good idea. I started working on something like this for Scenarios/Campaigns but it would have been an online searchable database.

Imp March 23rd, 2009 05:49 PM

Re: Map Database
 
This way lets people tinker with it as they feel fit convert to whatever datadase they are happy with & probably arrange search criteria better than a web based version.

Double_Deuce March 23rd, 2009 06:01 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Imp (Post 681856)
This way lets people tinker with it as they feel fit convert to whatever database they are happy with & probably arrange search criteria better than a web based version.

The one I was working on was MySQL based and would allow users to manipulate it and export it to the format of their choice for download.

Online also allows those interested to contribute, sort of like a wiki where you have to sign up and be approved to be able to edit (to keep changes from being made by passer bys). I think I deleted what I had up so before from my site, maybe I'll put it back up and see if there is any interest. If I had any php skills I would love to see something like this by for WinSP;

ASL Scenario Archive

Imp March 23rd, 2009 07:00 PM

Re: Map Database
 
Nice good game to.
Considered doing scenerios but tend to be one shot plays & to give any idea of balance or whatever I would have to play them all. Actually could do reasonably quickly using Scenhack for basics sides date etc.

I have no web skills will do WW2 & send you if like more than happy for you to adapt as see fit & give nice presentation. Just thought it was time to give something back as taken / learned quite a bit from this little community. Also knowing me probably hacked a few people off in the process but hey no brain surgeon so life motto help or make more people smile than the reverse. Then if there does happen to be someone in charge I might get to have a go at him it about there missmanagement of the whole affair.

Double_Deuce March 23rd, 2009 07:32 PM

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It wouldn't need to be as comprehensive as the ASL one but something along those lines I think would be well worth the effort.

Imp March 23rd, 2009 08:03 PM

Re: Map Database
 
Ok if its alright with you I will get some done then PM you for any input ideas if thats alright

Imp March 24th, 2009 12:56 PM

Re: Map Database
 
This is just for comments its in excel at the moment so anybody can open with open office I think its called, free anyhow & its not in database just your basic spreadsheet.

Have done first 15 Scenerios roughly nothing is in any specific order yet its setup for data entry.
Key
Height & Width as in map size
D< Defender on left
>D Defender on right
Meeting
Y means its ok P its poor nothing nuff said

Ter1-4
Predominant terrain types some have numbers after nothing or 1 is light 3 is heavy so Rough 3 means there is a lot of it
Woods is normal forrest is heavy
Village, Town, City on size
I will sort them better so all refrences to trees etc are in the same column though not sure if they are realy usefull.

Special
This will include Winter Amphib Rivers cratered terrain & may try & sort into a few other catogries like urban & cover level based on Ter1-4.

Region & Area feel free to correct my geography no expert & a couple have ?? by them as not sure. Area is the main one most are done.
If you set to sort by area then region you will get a nice idea of the maps available.
Notice I have taken som liberties to make sorting easier.
For instance Normandy is Fr. Normandy so it appears by France.
Russia is E Russia so it apears by Europe East.

Any ideas feel free & corrections or missing geography please post scenerio No it applies to & change

Imp March 24th, 2009 12:57 PM

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1 Attachment(s)
Idiot forgot to upload it

Double_Deuce March 24th, 2009 10:38 PM

Re: Map Database
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Imp (Post 681960)
This is just for comments its in excel at the moment so anybody can open with open office I think its called, free anyhow & its not in database just your basic spreadsheet.

I couldn't open it in my copy of Excel. Have to try OpenOffice on my wife's PC later.

Imp March 25th, 2009 10:04 AM

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Argh if it does not work say I may have exported in the wrong format. using another database to actually do it in as find it clearer but most people will not be able to read it.
Posted in your database thread going to delete 4 terrain fields & just put general short description of map in its place. I could then add a field which used a letter or one word to allow people to search based on map type so Urban River Farm U R T that way you could look for a map thats farmland defender on the left if thats what you are after.

Imp March 26th, 2009 04:13 AM

Work in progress
 
2 Attachment(s)
Done 70 odd WW2 maps so far nearly a quarter of them so thought I would post a couple of pictures for comments on any other fields required remembering I have several hundred maps to go through. Remember finnished product is a database so fully sortable the 2 pictures show most fields for the first 14 maps sorted in map order. There are afew more fields to allow easy sorting with things like winter, dessert, river, amphib, city put in so far

Key
D< MT >D Map suited for defend left, meeting, defend right as judged on sensible objectives.
X means yes
? Up to you a few maps are hard to call
@ look at notes

The most common note is "Add 10 hexes on attackers side or delay only"
What this means is the deploy line for the defender could do with being shifted a couple of hexes to allow them to set up say in a town along a river bank or whatever. If its a delay they could reach it in one or 2 turns but if dug in assume you do not want to move so adding 10 or so hexes to the attackers side of the map will shift the deploy line to a sensible position for defence.

Note I think most of these maps were made for scenerios so it is not fair of me to judge which are best & vica versa so if I think it could be used for a meeting type I have said so. Some are far better than others & if you want to assign them ratings of say 1-10 when you play them feel free to change the X to a number.

Adding width to a map is relativly easy & it generaly does not need to be to special as its in the attackers start area so hopefully will see limited action. Quick fix esp if not hilly cut & paste a strip then add or delete a few trees till it looks okayish, 5 minutes work & you can save it if you like it.
Comments thoughts please.

Will probably post finnished in excel or open office format but my excel is old suppose I should check for an update

Imp March 26th, 2009 10:46 AM

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Mr half a brain here rather than adding 10 to the attackers side you could take 10 off the defenders side:idea:


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