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Immaculate March 1st, 2012 05:52 PM

Blood Sacrifice
 
How many priests can blood sacrifice in one province?

Can i blood sacrifice without a temple?

Can i blood sacrifice in stealth in an opponent's province?

Thanks... i thought i understood this but i realize i don't.

JonBrave March 1st, 2012 06:21 PM

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I'm going to say: Unlimited, No, No.
But don't quote me :)

Shardphoenix March 1st, 2012 06:24 PM

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How many priests can blood sacrifice in one province?
One.

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Can i blood sacrifice without a temple?
No.

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Can i blood sacrifice in stealth in an opponent's province?
No.

JonBrave March 1st, 2012 06:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Shardphoenix (Post 797318)
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How many priests can blood sacrifice in one province?
One.

Where do you get that information from, please?

Admiral_Aorta March 1st, 2012 06:42 PM

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The game? If you try to sacrifice with more than one it tells you you can't.

JonBrave March 1st, 2012 06:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Admiral_Aorta (Post 797324)
The game? If you try to sacrifice with more than one it tells you you can't.

Ahh, I'm sure you're right. It doesn't appear anywhere in the docs, and I had forgotten.

Corinthian March 1st, 2012 09:28 PM

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Number 3 might be possible though. Because priests preaching in an enemy province that contains a temple gets the +1 to priest level if there is an enemy temple present.

Hrum March 2nd, 2012 12:22 AM

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I don't have the game in front of me and I've never tried it, so I can't say definitely (for the moment) that you can't surreptitiously sacrifice your slaves in someone else's temple to boost our own dominion. This is honestly not something I ever thought to try. However...

Thematically it seems like a strange idea: A priest quietly sacrificing your virgins in someone else's temple. I mean, doesn't the fact that it's someone else's temple mean your sacrifices there improve that god's dominion, not yours? Sounds kind of like scoring a touchdown in the wrong endzone.

I think of blood sacrifices as a huge public ceremony that the populace of the province come out for in droves, like the sacrifice scene in Apocalypto. It's a scheduled event. It's the most anticipated and exciting thing on the monthly calendar. Your people are gathered in a tumultuous throng at the base of this huge ziggarat. They're drinking, eating meats on a stick, making wagers on who will live the longest after being stabbed by the jade knife - who will scream the loudest. It's a monster truck rally, national holiday and weather report for the next 30 days all rolled into one. Noone would dare miss it. Seriously. They wouldn't dare.

So, yeah, I don't see that happening quietly - or happening in anyone else's temple.

And from a game balance perspective, does anyone seriously think Mictlan (ignoring the other blood sac'ing nations for the moment) needs another tactic to add to their toolbox? I mean, dozens of Civateteos (being the stealthy H2 blood mages that they are) stocked up on slaves slipping into your terrain and dom killing you in a sudden alpha strike? W? T? F? And do the local worshippers in this eg. Jomon temple fail to even notice that their regular priest has been replaced by this guy covered in feathers and painted like a heretic (err... sorry, I did say Civateteo, so that would be white chalk covered, shriveled old dead woman) with his (her) 30 drunk girls on a leash? At the very least I'd expect the temple goers in the front row in their temple-going best to object that they weren't expecting to be treated to Evil Dead The Musical.

Kobal2 March 2nd, 2012 09:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Hrum (Post 797364)
So, yeah, I don't see that happening quietly - or happening in anyone else's temple.

It's part of the oecumenical exchange program.

Zywack March 2nd, 2012 11:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Corinthian (Post 797341)
Number 3 might be possible though. Because priests preaching in an enemy province that contains a temple gets the +1 to priest level if there is an enemy temple present.

Really... I didn't know that! It's pretty useful to know! I can see it making some sort of sense, since an enemy temple would be the perfect place to show them the errors of their ways... Although that wouldn't be too stealthy anymore.

Regarding the blood sacrifices, I'll have to agree with Hrum all the way!

Soyweiser March 2nd, 2012 11:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Corinthian (Post 797341)
Number 3 might be possible though. Because priests preaching in an enemy province that contains a temple gets the +1 to priest level if there is an enemy temple present.

Wtf, didn't know that. Sounds like a bug to me.

Shangrila00 March 2nd, 2012 03:21 PM

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You can't bloodsac on enemy temples, at least with priests besieging an enemy fort. Haven't played a nation with stealthy priests and bloodsac, but I imagine it works the same way.

JonBrave March 2nd, 2012 04:36 PM

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I don't think you can sacrifice elsewhere than your own temple.

Is it confirmed that preaching in an enemy province with a temple gets any temple boost? My manual taks about "friendly temple", and I thought we had gone through this and decided that friendly meant owned by you, not whether the province liked your Dom or not. ?

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Originally Posted by Corinthian (Post 797341)
Number 3 might be possible though. Because priests preaching in an enemy province that contains a temple gets the +1 to priest level if there is an enemy temple present.


Corinthian March 2nd, 2012 04:48 PM

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I think so. We talked about it in a previous thread and I tested it in MP against Ermor while sieging his capitol once. Normally a province with dom 8+ would be almost immune to H2 preachers. (well 20% chance) But eight H8 preachers got rid of that just fine in like 2 turns.

JonBrave March 2nd, 2012 05:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Corinthian (Post 797452)
I think so. We talked about it in a previous thread and I tested it in MP against Ermor while sieging his capitol once. Normally a province with dom 8+ would be almost immune to H2 preachers. (well 20% chance) But eight H8 preachers got rid of that just fine in like 2 turns.

Sorry, quite lost :confused: H8 preachers?? Oh, perhaps you meant eight H2 preachers. If you were right they would be H3 instead of H2. How does that prove to you that must be the case? I make an H2 have (initial) 20% chance, H3 50%. Hmmm, I see. If you got lucky turn #1 that 20% could easily be 30+% by turn #2, and if "like 2 turns" turned out to be more like 3....

The manual likes "friendly" temples..

P.S.
It's also possible that preaching in enemy fort+temple province = bonus could be a bug, just seeing if a temple is there. If you think about it, your guy wants to preach at the temple, but that's inside the enemy fort, so he can't get there, seems to me...

Corinthian March 2nd, 2012 05:59 PM

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Thats not all. You cant imagine how lazy the mages and priests are in Dominions. Did you know that all magic sites you find will be found inside your own castle walls? The mages does not even bother searching further away than they could get on a sordid summer stroll. This even works if you are under siege. Just try the quick button for site searching "S" and watch them search the interior of the castle for magic sites!

Also it was not only a mater of preaching down existing dominion from his capitol because he had his pretender in the castle and combined with the temple and the capitol bonus that makes for 5 domchecks a turn.

Kobal2 March 2nd, 2012 09:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Corinthian (Post 797458)
Thats not all. You cant imagine how lazy the mages and priests are in Dominions. Did you know that all magic sites you find will be found inside your own castle walls? The mages does not even bother searching further away than they could get on a sordid summer stroll.

That's already pretty good. I can't even find my keys and there's only one room they can be in, nevermind a whole fortified city.

OK, so maybe missing the huge volcano in the middle of the plaza is being a bit oblivious, but they're busy people. Can't keep track of everything, dontcherknow. Places to go, people to see, unholy mockeries of life itself to dig out of their graves, you know how it is.


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