Romanian OB
 

Hello

I’ve been playing WinSPMBT for a couple of weeks so far and I like it a lot. I normally play as the Romanians and in doing so I noticed several inaccuracies and missing equipment in their OB. Now, how do I go about fixing this? Should I report my findings here or would it be better to alter the OB myself and send it to the design team for evaluation once it's done? I was hoping that my corrections could be used in future versions of WinSPMBT. What do you think?

Thank you.
~Bogdan

Re: Romanian OB
 

First, let’s tackle the MANPADS – otherwise known as Man Portable Air Defence Systems
Romanians have only one type of shoulder-launched SAM in v2.5 and that is the 9M32 missile fired from the 9K32 Strela-2 system (NATO designation SA-7a). I believe that Romanian air defence used this system once, but it’s been replaced by a different system known as CA-94M since 1999. The CA-94M system is basically an improved CA-94 (I believe this is the Romanian designation for the 9K32M Strela-2M system - NATO designation SA-7b). The CA-94M provides improved head-on capability, proximity fuze and a more lethal warhead.

From the fabricant ( http://www.elmec.ro )

This program was aimed at improving
the performances
of the system as follows:
- Increasing the target hit probability up to 0.4
by introducing a proximity fuze with a lethal radius of
0.5 m.
- Increasing the destructive capability by introducing
a new warhead with improved explosive charge
and high efficiency fragmentation elements.
- Improving the work stability and reliability of
missile’s electronic section, by realizing it in hybrid
technology.
- Improving the chances to correctly launch the
missile, by introducing the lead angles analysis and
indication system, which facilitates and corrects the
gunner’s actions.



Comparison table
System............................................ ............9K32 Strela-2...9K32M Strela-2M...9K34 Strela 3
Missile........................................... .............9M32................9M32M............ ........9M36
Target flight altitudes.................................50 - 1,500 m....50 - 2,300 m.............30 - 3,000 m
Maximum launch distance.........................3,400 m............4,200 m.....................4,100 m
Target maximum speed (head-on/tail-on)..*/220................150/260....................260/310
Single-shot hit probability..........................0.19-0.25..........0.22-0.25..................0.31-0.33
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Comparison table
System............................................ ............CA-94M...........9K310 Igla-1
Missile........................................... .............A-94M..............9M313
Target flight altitudes.................................30 - 2,300 m....10 - 3,500 m
Maximum launch distance.........................4,600 m............5,400 m
Target maximum speed (head-on/tail-on)..265/310...........320/360
Single-shot hit probability..........................0.4.......... ..........0.44-0.59

target maximum speed is of course in m/s

source: http://www.edefenseonline.com/defaul..._11_2004_IF_08

http://www.armyrecognition.com/europ...omania_004.JPG

Re: Romanian OB
 

OK, Thanks. I've noted this down on my list and when we review the OOB's for V3 we'll look into this

Don

Re: Romanian OB
 

Not a problem. I have more information if you'd like.

Also missing is the Maliutka-M2T upgrade of the AT-3. It consists of an improved engine and an integrated Milan-2T warhead. These modernized AT-3 missiles were fitted on MLI-84 infantry fighting vehicles from about 1999 onwards. By the way, the MLI-84 fired a 25mm Oerlikon KBA automatic canon instead of a 73mm gun. Perhaps earlier models did, but not the ones equipped with Maliutka-M2T missiles.

Specs
Max launching distance....3,000 m
Min launching distance....400 m
Warhead type..............tandem
Piercing capacity.........over 900 mm RHA
Caliber...................125 mm
Mass......................13.5 Kg
Length (probe retracted)..997 mm
Wing span.................395 mm

http://www.elmec.ro

http://www.romtehnica.com.ro/upgrade/IFV.jpg
http://www.romtehnica.com.ro/upgrade/IFV.jpg

Re: Romanian OB
 

Another thing.

In the table of equipment, there is the SA-8a listed and available from 1980 to 1992. True or not, I've seen SA-8b on parade in 2004 and I believe they are still in service today.

Romanian SA-8b in 2004
http://img523.imageshack.us/img523/3268/alb5li.jpg

Also missing from the table of equipment is the SA-3. But unfortunately I have no dates. All I know is that Elmec (www.elmec.ro) provides safety systems for firing SA-3 among other SAM missiles.

Re: Romanian OB
 

There are a few problems with the TR-85M1 and M2 tanks.
First, their fire control system (which probably is the only good thing about this tank) includes thermal imaging according to ROMTEHNICA, the company in charge of the upgrades.

http://www.romtehnica.com.ro/ ( click upgrading programs )

The new turret of the TR-85M1 with its additional passive armour offers protection equivalent to around 580 mm KE (according to a romanian military magazine, but I find this a little dubious - your thoughts?) over the frontal arc of the turret. This might explain why the TR-85M1/M2 is so heavy. It weighs a little more than a T-90.

http://img203.imageshack.us/img203/5...on4sized3k.jpg

Finally, both the M1 and M2 don't have missile countermeasures. In version 2.5, the M2 has two ARENA shots.

The M2 has improved survivability due to redesigned ammunition stowage.