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carlosib July 16th, 2007 11:05 AM

Charm
 
One simple question. Does the Charm spell (Thau 7) works on any unit in the game? Can i charm, mindless, undead, horrors, etc?
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AreWeInsaneYet July 16th, 2007 11:11 AM

Re: Charm
 
No mindless. Everything else's fine AFAIK.

thejeff July 16th, 2007 11:15 AM

Re: Charm
 
Pretenders as well, I believe.

Edi July 16th, 2007 12:42 PM

Re: Charm
 
Pretenders are immune, but wished for units that are available in pretender selection are fair game.

Taqwus July 16th, 2007 03:50 PM

...and transient monsters are still transient.
 
Ex. -- even if you charm Lammashastas or, say, one of the three forms of Umor expressing his dislike of somebody casting a global during Astral Corruption, they'll still vanish after the battle.

MaxWilson July 16th, 2007 03:57 PM

Re: ...and transient monsters are still transient.
 
Hmmm. Reminds me of a Master of Magic exploit, where you'd create an Air Elemental and then do a Word of Recall on it to get it permanently (although it did cost a lot of upkeep). I wonder what happens if you cast the army-wide version of Returning after charming Umor. Do you get to keep him? Probably not, but you never know.

-Max

Taqwus July 16th, 2007 04:00 PM

Re: ...and transient monsters are still transient.
 
Still gone.

You can keep a Doom Horror around for a bit longer (until they decide to leave, which might be but isn't necessarily next turn) if you Wish for them, but you won't necessarily get the one you want, and it's not really all that useful to have the Slave to Unreason sitting around.

MaxWilson July 16th, 2007 08:06 PM

Re: ...and transient monsters are still transient.
 
I've never yet faced any of the horrors. Are there really any more desirable than a normal SC? My impression was that Doom Horrors are scary largely because they appear in assassination-type attacks, and because even if you win they can still horror-mark you for repeats. Someone posted Kurgi's stats a while back and, aside from IIRC Blood Vengeance, they didn't look that impressive when matched against a conventional army.

-Max

Taqwus July 16th, 2007 08:24 PM

Re: ...and transient monsters are still transient.
 
For SC use, I'd rather have a Seraph (whoa!) or a Tartarian Titan (more feasible for most nations... and once you can get them, lower marginal cost). More slots, nasty base stats.

You can't equip a Doom Horror with Aegis + Flesh Ward + Amon Hotep. http://forum.shrapnelgames.com/image...es/redface.gif

Shovah32 July 16th, 2007 08:29 PM

Re: ...and transient monsters are still transient.
 
Kurgi isnt a combat horror, he cant even move.


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