Charm

[carlosib]

One simple question. Does the Charm spell (Thau 7) works on any unit in the game? Can i charm, mindless, undead, horrors, etc?
Thanks

[AreWeInsaneYet]

No mindless. Everything else's fine AFAIK.

[thejeff]

Pretenders as well, I believe.

[Edi]

Pretenders are immune, but wished for units that are available in pretender selection are fair game.

[Taqwus]

Ex. -- even if you charm Lammashastas or, say, one of the three forms of Umor expressing his dislike of somebody casting a global during Astral Corruption, they'll still vanish after the battle.

[MaxWilson]

Hmmm. Reminds me of a Master of Magic exploit, where you'd create an Air Elemental and then do a Word of Recall on it to get it permanently (although it did cost a lot of upkeep). I wonder what happens if you cast the army-wide version of Returning after charming Umor. Do you get to keep him? Probably not, but you never know.

-Max

[Taqwus]

Still gone.

You can keep a Doom Horror around for a bit longer (until they decide to leave, which might be but isn't necessarily next turn) if you Wish for them, but you won't necessarily get the one you want, and it's not really all that useful to have the Slave to Unreason sitting around.

[MaxWilson]

I've never yet faced any of the horrors. Are there really any more desirable than a normal SC? My impression was that Doom Horrors are scary largely because they appear in assassination-type attacks, and because even if you win they can still horror-mark you for repeats. Someone posted Kurgi's stats a while back and, aside from IIRC Blood Vengeance, they didn't look that impressive when matched against a conventional army.

-Max

[Taqwus]

For SC use, I'd rather have a Seraph (whoa!) or a Tartarian Titan (more feasible for most nations... and once you can get them, lower marginal cost). More slots, nasty base stats.

You can't equip a Doom Horror with Aegis + Flesh Ward + Amon Hotep.

[Shovah32]

Kurgi isnt a combat horror, he cant even move.