[Wendigo]

Originally posted by Graeme Dice:
No, I'm simply making a decision that I won't have anything to do with a known cheater.

Now, will you please stay out of threads that deal with games that you aren't welcome in? [/QB]

So you believe that you can insult him in public and he has no right to defend himself? This is bull**** Graeme. If you do not want him in your game say so without going into name calling.

Besides, nothing of what went on in that game amounts to cheating acording to the stuff that has been displayed in the relevant threads.

-So he joined a game under a different alias, so what? is that cheating in your book?

-So he got some info out of SB regarding the game in a chat forum? nobody is to blame from that save SB that did not keep his mouth shut, he was not tortured for that info, right?
Is that cheating? If NF got that info out of some other player in the game via an in-game backstab would that have amounted to cheating? You cannot make a distinction between in-game lying & out-of-game lying when diplomacy is most often than not done via e-mail.


I will tell you what _is_ cheating. Back in DomsI I joined a game (Mayhem of magic) in which the host was playing Ulm with full positive scales (all +3 except for drain & neutral weather), a citadel fort & a Cyclops RB pretender proficient in all magics...the guy had ringed the map giving himself a pretender with far far more than 500 design points. YWL was also in that game, same as JT I believe. The only time in all these years of Doms MP playing I have run into a cheater, but we spotted him easily.

That _is_ cheating: manipulating the map, the design points, the hosting or entering the game as multiple nations. Add violating whichever house rules are agreed on.

A couple lies however, is _not_ cheating in a game that allows diplomacy. Whether those lies were in-game or not is irrelevant so long as you do not set in stone that all diplomacy must be conducted via the in-game messaging.

So, drop the name calling. If you do not trust NF, just say so & move on, but do not be surprised if the guy shows up to defend himself.

This public hanging is sickening.