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	Well the forge of the ancients is certanly a seperate halving before the others but a master smith ADDS his bonus to that of the item he is using - 75 % with the hammer of the dwarfen lords for example so this is certainly worth speculating about!Quote: 
	
		| It is not 100 -50 -50 but 100*0.5*05. And it never ever drops below 1 gem in all paths involved. 
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 Pickles
 
 (Boron -just wish a Cyclops Hammer in Blahblahblah & lend it to me...)
 
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 would that mean that a nataraja with the cyclops hammer and the hammer of the forge lord ( both 50% ) then gets everything for 1 gem , even soul contracts / robes of invulnerability ?
because from pickles statement it seems to me that forgebonuses are added and then multiplied and only the forge of ancients / site boni for forging are separated .
it would declare perfectly why pickles gets the robes for 10 gems .
if it would be all multiplied it would be 15 , not 10 gems .
sure normally this is not relevant BUT when playing on a faerun game where you can wish excessevely in lategame forging robes of invulnerability for 1 earth gem / turn should matter .