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Ironhawk said:
Dunno about the dark vines. They do have tons of HP, but I find that thier size makes them get swamped so fast that it really doesnt matter. I guess if you had a critical mass of vines it might be pretty effective? How many do people use regularly? Dont think I've ever summoned one, myself...
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I have used them, they are decent. Like vine ogres except no mr problem, and better stats in general (in particular, four more protection makes a difference). The flip side is they need magic leadership. They are also more expensive, but unlike vine ogres they are not limited in production by your nature gem supply.