[DavidG]

Gee I didn't this would turn into an historical discussion. Forget the analogy. My point was that this type of surrender is not really a surrender at all since no miltary force is eliminated. (in fact it becomes stronger) It is just a political manouver. One in which can often unbalance the game.
And yea, hehe, I have remineded by freinds what 4X stands for. Guess the just prefer 3X games.