Opinions on ethics of this PBW move

DavidG · #1 May 20th, 2002, 09:01 PM

Gee I didn't this would turn into an historical discussion. Forget the analogy. My point was that this type of surrender is not really a surrender at all since no miltary force is eliminated. (in fact it becomes stronger) It is just a political manouver. One in which can often unbalance the game.
And yea, hehe, I have remineded by freinds what 4X stands for. Guess the just prefer 3X games.

Master Belisarius · #2 May 20th, 2002, 09:12 PM

DavidG: I had the same experience that you have... then, never joined again to any PBW game, before be sure that the option to surrender was dissabled.

Gozra · #3 May 20th, 2002, 09:27 PM

I would like to reply but with a grim demeanor. If the game allows you to do it it's ok. That Tactic can only work once in a game. then you just inform all the other players what happned and The alliance aganist clever tactics is born. As for players who quit and run that bites but, in talking with a new player they were forming up a list of players they liked to play games with and those who are not fun to play with. And I am sure that it coud be arranged to publish it. I personally think it would be not a good thing to do.

Gozra · #4 May 20th, 2002, 09:27 PM

I would like to reply but with a grim demeanor. If the game allows you to do it it's ok. That Tactic can only work once in a game. then you just inform all the other players what happned and The alliance aganist clever tactics is born. As for players who quit and run that bites but, in talking with a new player they were forming up a list of players they liked to play games with and those who are not fun to play with. And I am sure that it coud be arranged to publish it. I personally think it would be not a good thing to do.

Gozra · #5 May 20th, 2002, 09:27 PM

I would like to reply but with a grim demeanor. If the game allows you to do it it's ok. That Tactic can only work once in a game. then you just inform all the other players what happned and The alliance aganist clever tactics is born. As for players who quit and run that bites but, in talking with a new player they were forming up a list of players they liked to play games with and those who are not fun to play with. And I am sure that it coud be arranged to publish it. I personally think it would be not a good thing to do.

mac5732 · #6 May 20th, 2002, 09:28 PM

ask them to divy up the spoils amongst the other players, or take and make the defunct empire a computer controled one, OR.... My favorite, Build lots of cloaked Star Destroyers and send them to make diplomatic calls on his most important systems...

That is why it is important to have all rules down before play starts saves hard feelings and other problems.

Have you asked or explained your concern to the other player? If so and he says tough, then after I bashed his stars, I'd walk...

just some ideas mac

DavidG · #7 May 20th, 2002, 09:43 PM

Well as I mentioned somewhere in this thread the players in the game that prompted my original post agree there was NO evil plot intended (just perhaps a poor desision and a host up too early in the morning :-) ) I'm now just curious what people think of the rule that allows a player to surrender to an ally. Personally I don't like it. I'm thinking perhaps a better way to deal with surrender would be simply remove the surrender button and make it such that a player could only surrender by accepting the demand of another player.

Edited to read 'NO evil plot' Oops. didn't make sense before.

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Originally posted by mac5732:

Have you asked or explained your concern to the other player? If so and he says tough, then after I bashed his stars, I'd walk...

just some ideas mac

[ May 21, 2002, 01:13: Message edited by: DavidG ]