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		| I think you are missing a huge contributor to their value. |  What would that be Chris?  Don't get me wrong.  I think the Black Templars have value and I buy them depending on the strategy.  I just think they are overpriced.  I know you have lot's of MP experience and I'm interested in your analysis.
 
I doubt I would play a build based on them, but it's possible.
 
An MR boost would sure help.  A suggestion on IRC was made to use them with Legions of Steel which is great except that it's very hard for Ulm to get many LoS casters with only 1/4 of black priests having the capability and only after Conj 3 research.  Still, 20 protect +3 is very very nice. | 
	
 Hey Maerlande,
The fact that because they *can* build guardians, sacred nations don't choose ulm as a target.  
I disagree completely with squirrel that bless nations tend to field large armies of smiters.  In fact, very few nations field large numbers of H3 priests.  Abysia comes to mind.
Secondly; Ulm has a 25% production bonus.  This means that it is easier to have dump stats, and translates into a bonus on pretender design.
Finally, I *like* the low MR of ulm units.  I don't believe accurate stats are tracked since the recent changes to ulm.  However I definitely do not view it as one of the weak nations.
Ulm has a national spell that boosts MR.  I would rather increase the AoE of that spell than make any fundamental changes to ulm units.
I won the all ulm civil war (admittedly late age), but I think many of the same principles carry through for ulm from beginning to end.
To me, ulms low MR is a guide that ulm needs to transition from national troops to other things.  But due to its forge bonus, or national spells (la) ulm has pretty good options in those areas.