[RadicalTurnip]

Pretty much all but 1 of my D&D friends hates 4e, we bought the books they day it came out and I was running a campaign within two weeks, but I didn't like it. Magic doesn't feel like magic anymore. At all.

My primary gripe is that I think of D&D as a fantasy world simulation. 4e was not a simulation, it was a battle game with a few extra things thrown in, if I wanted battles, I could play Warhammer. My players (and I when I play) have a hard enough time roleplaying and not just metagaming. 4th Edition makes that even more difficult.

4e is great for its simplicity, but I don't want simple, I want realistic (I know, elves, dwarfs, magic, etc), 4e feels like there's a disconnect between the real world and the battle world, and I don't like that. Just my 2cp.