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Originally Posted by WraithLord
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Originally Posted by thejeff
If you price them for those nations, then they're too expensive for everyone else. If you price them for everyone else, those two get hordes of cheap SCs. Removing the afflictions would be the best solution, but I don't think that's possible.
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The afflictions are not that bad. Even feeblemind are comparable and better than say Ettin. |
Those that have full slots, maybe. Feeblemind also cuts mr. I'm not sure offhand what Ettin mr is.
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Originally Posted by WraithLord
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Originally Posted by thejeff
I actually think the GoR change makes it worse. Previously boosting the cost of GoR allowed you to change the cost of only the useful tarts. Whoever had GoR or the Chalice could heal them all and GoR as many as they could afford, but other nations could summon them, but only GoR the non-feebleminded ones, lowering their cost per useful tart.
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I disagree. GoR gave you much much more ROI in terms of diversity even w/o chalice. In-fact I made it a habit not to rush for chalice and not squabble over GoH. In two games that I won I summoned many tarts and just GoRed some to get lots of good stuff. |
I think we may be agreeing here. I've used much the same strategy. Summon many tarts, GoR those w/o feeblemind. With the new changes that doesn't work: You summon a lot of tarts, but only a fraction are commanders, and only a fraction of those aren't feebleminded. GoR doesn't work on them, so you don't get to pick which ones you put the rest of the investment into.
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Now the cost is the same, but without Chalice/GoH you get roughly a quarter as many useful ones.
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My point. They are still good. Just lower crazy factor and up price a bit.
If they could be made unhealable then it would be perfect. |
They can be made unhealable. Remove Chalice and GoH from the game.
Making them better and more expensive doesn't help, nor does making them worse and cheaper, because neither changes the balance between those who can heal them and those who can't. Before you could pay roughly half the cost upfront (Gate) and then only pay the rest (GoR) on those that were worth it. Now you have to pay the whole cost upfront. That changes the balance. Without Chalice/GoH you now pay just as much for roughly 1/4 the SCs, before you only paid the GoR cost for the SC ones.