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				 Newbie Question:  Attack Benefit 
 ...Does one get a benefit when attacking from 2 or more provinces into a single enemy province?
 I know it's probably in the manual..but tonight is Friday.  I play, not read (much) heh
 
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				May 23rd, 2008, 08:18 PM
			
			
			
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				 Re: Newbie Question:  Attack Benefit 
 The only advantage is that you might be able to catch an enemy army coming from the attacked province if you're moving FROM the province that they're moving TO, and have the whole combat occur in the attacked province, rather than chasing the enemy around your back provinces. |  
	
		
	
	
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				May 23rd, 2008, 08:30 PM
			
			
			
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				 Re: Newbie Question:  Attack Benefit 
 True. jfp3, don't overlook the fact that you could split your army accidentally. If I'm in Washington and Idaho and my enemy is in Oregon, and I try to move both my armies into Oregon to attack him, it's possible that I will take Oregon's PD with my Idaho army while he slaughters my Washington army in Washington (if he tried to move into Washington).
 When two armies try to move directly at each other, it's semi-random which province they actually end up in. In my example, if I were unsure whether half my army could defeat him by itself it would have been safer to move the Idaho army to Washington first and then attack both from the same province simultaneously.
 
 On the other hand, sometimes it doesn't hurt to try to "block" his movement by moving a lone scout or something straight at the enemy province (set to Retreat if a battle does occur). Usually won't work but sometimes does.
 
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				May 23rd, 2008, 09:11 PM
			
			
			
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				 Re: Newbie Question:  Attack Benefit 
 Ok Great info guys.  I'm pretty much just stomping Indies right now, and I'm assuming that they will never attack out of their provinces. 
Since I wrote the first post though, I have finally come across my first non-indy enemy.  His province is undefended, but may have a PD force.  The plot thickens.
 
I also wonder how I may "up the resources" in some provinces where I like the recruits.  I don't know who (which unit type, I'm playing "Man" Middle Age) to move to a now "border" province to start buiding a new Castle. I understand this will increase income/resources from surrounding territories and enable me to start building some heavier units which I'm sure to need soon.
 
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				May 23rd, 2008, 09:37 PM
			
			
			
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				 Re: Newbie Question:  Attack Benefit 
 You can often build an indy commander in the province in question and have HIM build your castle instead of one of your nationals. Won't work if the indy commander in that province is a shaman or something (needs a temple and/or lab), but you can probably find an indy province somewhere close that does offer cheap commanders.
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				May 23rd, 2008, 09:52 PM
			
			
			
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		| jfp3 said: Ok Great info guys.  I'm pretty much just stomping Indies right now, and I'm assuming that they will never attack out of their provinces.
 
 Since I wrote the first post though, I have finally come across my first non-indy enemy.  His province is undefended, but may have a PD force.  The plot thickens.
 
 I also wonder how I may "up the resources" in some provinces where I like the recruits.  I don't know who (which unit type, I'm playing "Man" Middle Age) to move to a now "border" province to start buiding a new Castle. I understand this will increase income/resources from surrounding territories and enable me to start building some heavier units which I'm sure to need soon.
 
 Again...bless the Friday Nighters who're stuck at home for some reason and able to answer a greatful Newbies queries.  Can't be Dominions alone can it?
   
 |  No--the castle increases the available resources in the province you put it in at the expense of the provinces around.  Neither the total income nor the total resources are affected.
 
The only way to affect the total is what scales you chose when you started the game.
			
			
			
			
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				 Re: Newbie Question:  Attack Benefit 
 Thanks Max...I must say this is brilliant so far and I'm only scratching the surface.  Thanks for indulging me tonight as I can only get myself to the manual during small breaks (and they won't be many tonight :-) |  
	
		
	
	
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				 Re: Newbie Question:  Attack Benefit 
 > No--the castle increases the available resources in the province you put it in at> the expense of the provinces around. Neither the total income nor the total
 > resources are affected.
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 > The only way to affect the total is what scales you chose when you started the
 > game.
 
 This is absolutely not true.
 
 Building a castle will increase the income of the targeted province, without
 affecting the income of the surrounding provinces.
 
 As for resources, not only does the castle increase the resources from the
 targeted province, it also brings in resources that were previously not
 present in the surrounding provinces.  Now, when you have more than one
 castle drawing from one province, things get trickier, and you can (will)
 reduce the resources in the uncastled provinces.
 
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