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January 21st, 2004, 03:18 PM
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Re: Help with Arco
Chug one every time you win a battle. That should make the war go back and forth.
But seriously, Arcos power is in magic. Great mages, labs at 1/2 price, starting spells designed at spying out the world quickest. In SP games its hard to see the use of magic but in MP games you can usually get there.
A fairly standard Arcos thing is NOT to try and take the world. You take enough for gold/gem income, concentrate on defense so the game goes long enough, and lead scoreboard in research.
Depending on who you are next to you might create a temporary alliance feeding them gold/gems/magic-items and let them plow the way. If you bribe them enough they might even let you have some of their backside provinces. Arcos/Ulm makes a heck of a combo but they have to be close enough to be your barrier while you research yourself into power.
Just my humble opinion of course. There are many ways to play in this game. Oh yeah, a combat god might help balance things for you.
[ January 21, 2004, 13:19: Message edited by: Gandalf Parker ]
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January 21st, 2004, 03:26 PM
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Re: Help with Arco
Hmm, I haven't played them much, but as I remember, they have decent heavy infantry (hypaspists and hoplites) and some nice javelin throwers (peltasts). But the javelin throwers on fire closest on the front line, back them with heavy infantry on attack closest just behind, and you have the making of a decent army for the starting game The javelin will act as softeners and shock absorbers for your heavy infantry, which should have a very good survival rate (not so the throwers, but they are cheap). Forget the slingers, the cavalry and the cardaces. When you have the money, you can try elephants, but they are tricky to use : you must plan for them to rout, and leave the way open, or you will feel the pain  Also, you need at the very least 5 of them, a little back so they are not the first target of archers, or they will never get to the enemy before routing...
Remember that your priestess can heal afflictions.
Later, you will need to use their mages, but I can't help you there, I have never gotten that far.
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January 21st, 2004, 03:32 PM
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Re: Help with Arco
Mix elephants with hypaphists so they are less likely to rout and go trample. Put chariots on the flanks with ordered to "hold and attack rear" for some more trample.
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January 21st, 2004, 03:33 PM
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Re: Help with Arco
A little trick : put some Hypaspists along with Elephants to boost their morale somewhat.
5 Elephants costs 500 G/100 R, Morale is 9
5 Elephants + 5 Hyps costs 575 G/190 R, avg morale is 11.5 
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January 21st, 2004, 03:42 PM
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Re: Help with Arco
This is exactly the type of feedback I was hoping for guys, thank you. Soon I will impose my tyranny over the entire map and force everyone to eat olive-based dishes!
Muhahahahaha! Ha!
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January 21st, 2004, 05:24 PM
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Re: Help with Arco
Body Ethereal works great on elephants, just make sure to group them with Hypaspists for morale.
LI javelins should be good too, but don't put them front and center. They get massacred by bowfire or melee contact, and you really want to find something less vulnerable to take the brunt.
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January 21st, 2004, 10:10 PM
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Re: Help with Arco
As was stated before, you should put Hyps and Elephants together, but you should note that the Elephants will far outdistance the Hyps and one or two may die. My common configuration for Indy stomping is 4 Elephants 12~13 Hyps. You can get away with 3 sometimes, but more often than not, a headstong elephant will run out in front of the rest and try to stmapede his way to the back and get caught and killed in the middle.
But with 4 or 5 Elephants, most things will rout by the pure carnage that the elephants bring.
Also using Hyps instead of Hoplites allows Map movement of two.
You should be able to build an army like that every turn or two as you expand. Then have a 4 Astral Astrologer equipped with a Crown of Command play the role of ferry. Have him grab large amounts of troops and Gateway them to your borders (with a lab).
Also never stop making Mystics, with their magic versitility, ability to communion, 2 astral base (for paralyze, stellar fires) and good research capability you'll have a very decent search force (for sites) and an incredibly versatile magic resource for when you can't count on the pure elephant factor. Also save an Astrologer who gets 1 in Death for any SC's you happen to see marching around, and as soon as they enter your domain hit them with a Vengance of the Dead.
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January 22nd, 2004, 02:08 AM
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Help with Arco
Ok, so I have managed to turn on a number of my buddies to Dom2, and their CDs arrived late Last week. We have set up the details on a small PBEM game amongst ourselves, and drew lots as to which races we would play. I drew Arcoscephale, and I have been playing quickie SP games to get myself acquainted with them.
Now, obviously my overall goal here is to leave my good friends crushed and broken in the mud, whimpering like 12-year-old girls. Yet I despair of being able to accomplish this noble feat using the feta-eating phalanxes of Arcoscephale.
In my test games (five or six of them using various pretender load-outs), I have been stomped repeatedly by the AI, though I can do well with several other races.
Oh great Dominion II gliteratti, I beseech you! Bestow upon me your Arco-related wisdom so that I might whip my buddies into submission and force them to buy me beer.
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January 22nd, 2004, 02:18 AM
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Re: Help with Arco
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Originally posted by Unwise:
whip my buddies into submission and force them to buy me beer.
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You should turn that deal around and make it so that you get the beer if and when they beat you like a drum at a band contest. That way, if and when you lose, you are assured of easing your pain with copious quantities of alcohol. It's sneaky. Perhaps the negative incentive of having to ply you with beer will discourage them from being nasty, and make your victory, however dry, sweet. 
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January 22nd, 2004, 04:13 AM
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Re: Help with Arco
Send plenty of gems and gold to the Tien Chi player. Thus is the way to victory.
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