Divine Serpent man only?

[rabelais]

I noticed Nature is the only path in which you can't get a stating level 3 pretender in the generally available templates.

Why no lvl3 in the toolkit? Is the nature bless effect "better" than the others?

I'm sure there are many other examples of arbitarily restricted pretenders.

But Man is hardly a weak race, so it seemed odd.

Anyone else find pretenders they think should be more widely available? (i.e. thematically appropriate, but not listed?)

Or have a theory as to why this might be?

Especially nature oriented nations like Pangaea and Machaka (and C'tis?) should have DS as an option, I would think.

Thanks for all replies,

Rabe


level-3 pretenders
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moloch
titan
nereid/son of sea-aquatic
cyclops
oracle
divine serpent Man ONLY?
PoD/Lich
FoB

I believe it has less to do with balance and more to do with the historical/thematic element.

C'tis should get anything reptile. I also wouldn't feel too bad about Mictlan having access to the DS. I'd hope they would allow every race a higher dominion (3-4) and higher starting magic (3) in at least one field, so that they can more appropriately use some of those blessing effects.

[Kristoffer O]

Originally posted by rabelais:

Especially nature oriented nations like Pangaea and Machaka (and C'tis?) should have DS as an option, I would think.

Cernunnos was a celtic god sometimes represented by a ramsheaded serpent. That's the main reason why only Man has it.

OTOH there are some gods that aren't restricted that should be (thematically). JK has disallowed me from restricting gods too much . Lacking in mythological education he comes up with the most disturbingly unthematic pretender designs. . Fortunately I can bypass the problem by adding more gods.

[Kristoffer O]

Originally posted by Zen:
I believe it has less to do with balance and more to do with the historical/thematic element.

C'tis should get anything reptile. I also wouldn't feel too bad about Mictlan having access to the DS. I'd hope they would allow every race a higher dominion (3-4) and higher starting magic (3) in at least one field, so that they can more appropriately use some of those blessing effects.

Good point. Pretender magic levels are older than bless effects, so this has not been considered.

Yes I know, I'm horrendously subtle in bringing up such things. Don't let one sneak by you.

*Puts a "Good Point" sticker on his chart*

[Gandalf Parker]

so does anyone in this discussion have any specific designs to offer? not just good god designs but things that are thematic. I would love to offer one but Im drawing a blank on a Man deity who would start as 3 nature. Maybe "Green Man" (please dont laugh, there really is such a thing)
http://www.greenmanpress.com/gmplogo.gif

[ January 18, 2004, 15:13: Message edited by: Gandalf Parker ]