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Old July 30th, 2004, 12:28 PM
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Default pan cw : formulas for freespawns/reanimations. quite finished . with guide too

afaik there is no info in the manual about pan cw reanimation .
in a quick forum search i found no information too .

so here my questions :

dom manual page 21 : "the unholy priests of carrion woods reanimate manikins . this reanimation is much more effective inside a friendly dominion than outside ."

that is the whole information about cw in the manual .

pan cw theme needs at least magic 1 + growth 1 .

freespawns seem to be dependant on dominion strenght , growth and magic scale .

how are the formulas for that ?
which freespawns need a temple , castle , lab ?


next part :
reanimation :
the manual says reanimation is more effective inside friendly dominion .
so how is reanimation linked to dominion strenght ?

there are 3 pan unholy summonable priests , with unholy levels of 1 , 2 , 3 .

if it is possible please provide detailed enough info that i can make a chart like the one in the manual for ermor .

this info would be really helpful thnx in advance


afaik pan cw dominion kills 1% population per dominion level / turn .

so according to how many extra freespawns you get / how many more reanimations you get in average for friendly dominion i perhaps have a very good idea for pan cw

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Old July 30th, 2004, 12:51 PM
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Default Re: pan cw : formulas for freespawns/reanimations. quite finished . with guide too

There is info about Carrionwoods somewhere on this forum.
I'll check tonight if I can dig something up from my archive.

Meanwhile, you have to search for yourself - don't have the time too atm.
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Default Re: pan cw : formulas for freespawns/reanimations. quite finished . with guide too

That is in my manual addenda ... obviously it come from somewhere in this forum:


Auto summoning:

10*(dom+growth+1) % chance (actually a d10 is used) of manikin reanimation if there are unburied corpses.

1+growth+magic% chance of mandragora - else manikin.

Also:

10*(dom+growth+1) % chance of carrion beast / pangaean manikin reanimation if the province is a forest.

1+growth+magic% chance of powerful stuff.

There might be some stuff prohibiting human manikin in forests (making them beasts instead)

Reanimation:

Number: Priestlvl/2+(1D2-1)
Quality 10%

So, if you have ten provinces with dom5 (growth2+magic2) of which 5 are forests you would get about 9 manikin and 4 beasts each turn. Of these one or two would be powerful.

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Default Re: pan cw : formulas for freespawns/reanimations. quite finished . with guide too

hm i downloaded the manual addenda from your sig yesterday but haven't found that in your manual addenda liga .
that is exactly what i searched for .

with reanimation though this seems a bit strange because in the dominions manual is written reanimation strongly increases in friendly dominion .
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Default Re: pan cw : formulas for freespawns/reanimations. quite finished . with guide too

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Reanimation:

Number: Priestlvl/2+(1D2-1)
Quality 10%

that seems strange :

my most powerful priest is the carrion lord :
so he would have priest level/2 = 1,5 .
rounded up in flavour of player .

that would be only 1-3 reanimations / turn ?
and for carrion lady / centaur only 0-2 ?
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Default Re: pan cw : formulas for freespawns/reanimations. quite finished . with guide too

ok i had a faerun sp game left which i don't want to continue :
so i did some testing there :
my results are surprising :

i had dominion strenghts 8 , growth 1 , the testing province was a wood and unburied corpses there .

i had 11 lvl 3 unholy reanimators in that province too .


after ligas formulas as far as i understood them the following should be :

because of unburied corpses :
10x(8+1+1) % chance = 100% chance for a d10 roll
that means 1-10 freespawns
because of forest location the same , again 1-10 freespawns .

from reanimation :
2 variants :
lvl 3 priest/2 = 1,5

variant 1 :
rounded up to 2 :
2+(1d2-1) = 2-3 summons per reanimation
variant 2 :
rounded down to 1 :
1+(1d2-1)= 1-2 summons per reanimation


so i should get according to ligas formulas :
variant 1 : 24-53 new creatures in the province
variant 2 : 13-42 new creatures in the province


now what i did get was the following :
i did 6 turns and each turn i got exactly 35 new creatures .
it is in ligas formulas ranges but because the range is exactly 29 figures .
there are many possible outcomes , at least more than 1000 , probably much more .
now the important point though :
the exact outcome of 35 has something like a 5-10% probability at maximum .
even if it would be 10% probability my outcome of 35 for 6 following turns would have the following probability because the turns are independent :

6
(0,1) = 0.0001 %

so the formula seems incorrect .

i have found a very simple formula for myself now which fits very well with the outcome :


creatures per reanimation : simply unholy priest level
1x[10(dominionstrenghts+growth+1)] % chance for 1 freespawn because of forest

1x[10(dominionstrenghts+growth+1)] % chance for 1 freespawn because of unburied corpses .


so far the result is : 11x3 creatures through reanimation + 1 for forest + 1 because of unburied corpses = 35 .

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