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February 27th, 2005, 12:14 PM
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Van vs Valkyrie
Hi
Does anyone use Valkyries? and why would you? For 17% more gold it looks like Vans are better 2:1, at least according to Saber Cherries utility.
The only thing I can think of, is that there is a tactical advantage to flight that I am missing...
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February 27th, 2005, 12:38 PM
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Second Lieutenant
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Re: Van vs Valkyrie
One of the things relatively tough flyers like Valkyries are good for is getting to a SC that relies on a lot of spell casting buffs before it can get all the buffs up.
In the early stages of the game, a squad of Valkyries set to attack archers can also be useful, for a similar reason - getting to and hopefully routing the archers before they can do much damage to your forces.
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February 27th, 2005, 12:46 PM
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Major General
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Re: Van vs Valkyrie
Yeah, valks can fly. I normally us vans, but against an AI... or a player that does not use enough bodyguards... Valkyries can kill all the leaders and mages and cause a rout without real combat. Too bad Vanheim has no flying leaders. You can't equip any of its holy leaders with flying boots, either... A Valkyrie Wing Commander would be a nice addition
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February 27th, 2005, 05:27 PM
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Second Lieutenant
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Re: Van vs Valkyrie
How can you tell Valkyrie (or someone in general) to attack leader and mages if they don't have bodyguard ? They just go fighting the squads and not to the leader ... is that true ?
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February 27th, 2005, 07:47 PM
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Major General
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Re: Van vs Valkyrie
Use "hold and attack rear." The enemy squads will advance, leaving the leaders, mages, and archers unprotected at the rear, and then they will be surrounded by flying units and die... unless the enemy does something unexpected. But it usually works. I even got massacred by Mictlan Eagle Warriors (which are really weak) once because I was not expecting them, and my superior army routed with no leadership.
You can also do "attack archers" ... sometimes people hide their leaders in a block of archers.
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February 28th, 2005, 07:52 AM
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Re: Van vs Valkyrie
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Saber Cherry said:
You can also do "attack archers" ... sometimes people hide their leaders in a block of archers.
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What is an especially dumb idea. Even the AI brings along archers with ordes to "fire at archers" now and then ..
I always have at least some archers shooting at enemy archers. Archers root easily. Even better, if I can hit a commander which stands next or among them
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As for AI the most effective work around to this problem so far is to simply use an American instead, they tend to put up a bit more of a fight than your average Artificial Idiot.
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