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July 31st, 2005, 10:14 PM
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Ermor?
How on earth do you deal with them?
They are the scourge of all other races given that their domain alone kills population that other races need for income and resources. If they are able to make it to mid game, how do you take them out (give the vast wastes you have to fight through to get at them)?
I have played them through to mid game in SP and stoped because it was to easy but have no MP experience of them.
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July 31st, 2005, 11:26 PM
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Re: Ermor?
Basicly, build a lot of priests. There are also a lot of anti-undead spells and items that help out (holy pyre, herald lance). If you are preperared to fight them, they are not so tough. If you are not, however, then you will probably want allies to help out if it is an MP game.
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August 1st, 2005, 01:13 AM
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Re: Ermor?
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Basicly, build a lot of priests.
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I'm in the same position, sort of...although I have a few other options at my disposal. I have been trying monk hordes with Vine Ogres as the front end meat shields. In one engagement, I had about 16 Monks (Man), and I wasn't impressed with the amount of undead they banished out of the 300 strong horde. I still ended up retreating after countless battle rounds. I'll admit that the banishment looked cool, like a light show, but didn't seem to do much against the undead horde.
Am I not using enough priests? or are they to low level?
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August 1st, 2005, 01:21 AM
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Re: Ermor?
You are not using enough, else ermor is using more powerful undeads than thier normal freespawns. Level 2 priests are ideal banishers- partiularly Man's which are almost half price.
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August 1st, 2005, 01:59 AM
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Re: Ermor?
Priests which have water magic can cast quickness on themselves for double efficiency (I think a water-9 blessing would work well in most cases as well).
Anyway, the ultimate undead horde (AE) killer is alteration-7 Bone Grinding, it doesn't say so in the spell description, but since AE undead are... Well... Bones, it grinds them up and kills them all, or atleast that's how I lost a horde of longdead horsemen to an AI once. It is however quite hard to get enough death magic levels on one mage to cast the spell (unless you are Ermor...).
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August 1st, 2005, 02:19 AM
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Re: Ermor?
As said before, there are many anti-undead spells, items and even units. Using them, superior numbers of undead won't be enough. AI can't use these tactics correctly, and playing Ermor's, Pangaea's or C'tis' undead themes against AI is very easy.
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August 1st, 2005, 09:53 AM
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Re: Ermor?
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Anyway, the ultimate undead horde (AE) killer is alteration-7 Bone Grinding, it doesn't say so in the spell description, but since AE undead are... Well... Bones, it grinds them up and kills them all, or atleast that's how I lost a horde of longdead horsemen to an AI once. It is however quite hard to get enough death magic levels on one mage to cast the spell (unless you are Ermor...).
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Er, don't you mean Wither Bones? Bone Grinding damages *all* units on the battlefield, normal and undead alike, including your own. Wither Bones is undead-specific.
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August 1st, 2005, 11:11 AM
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Re: Ermor?
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You are not using enough, else ermor is using more powerful undeads than thier normal freespawns. Level 2 priests are ideal banishers- partiularly Man's which are almost half price.
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I somewhat disagree : Banishment is largely level-dependent, and if you manage to have lvl 3+ priests they are much more effective.
However, in the case of Man they're just not available : so I'd advice to rather back the priests with bowmen and Air mages, for WG sure but also for lightning (LB, OB, TS) spells. To top it off add a dose of Bards for soothing songs 
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