Bah I Give Up

Theonlystd · #1 December 5th, 2006, 12:33 AM

I've never been so disappointed in a game that shows so much potential .I can see great improvements like combat,love how sensors,supplies,ordnance work and would be great fun to play just nothing works.

I don't know where to start. I dont expect a game bug free theres just no way thats possible. But Se5 is horrid.. Mp doesn't work for me at all. Alt Tabbing Does work at all ie minizming the game. I have it installed on 2 different computers and they each have there own game busting bugs that pop up after awhile..

One computer the graphics get all screwy after awhile and it crashes and the graphics stay all screwy for that save. The other one just crashes randomly during combat. I cant create large galaxies on one computer cause the game refuses to fill out the solar system no warp points or suns after a certain number . The other one gives all the warp points and such but the game is so terribly slow at processing ill be 40 before i finish a game. Which wouldnt be so bad if the increase in processing time was directly tied to an improved Ai.. But sadly its not. The AI is more incompetent than ever.

I have Organic Satellites with one piece of organic Armor on automatically regenerate it appears to be all armor damage every few seconds so i put 3 sats down and i can stop 6,7 frigs.. And this is what 2,3rd patch?.

I've never made it to turn 50..Only thing that i can do and find enjoyable and semi playable is turn all techs on and have ships and such fight each other in the simulator. And even thats a chore if i want decent sized battles cause i still have to manually add ever ship,fighters,sat and such after i painstakenfully click and drag craploads of modules to the ship

And thats just part of the UI problems.

Maybe in 5,6 months and 4,5 patches and the balanced mod even more refined it'll actually be playable..

Atrocities · #2 December 5th, 2006, 01:02 AM

I can relate to what you have said. In fact I was just sitting here as the PC warmed up thinking about the game and about how I just don't feel that it measures up to the previous version.

But I also keep reminding myself that this game and its developer are not like other game companies. That despite the many flaws of the game, it will get better over time. That the developer will continue to work on improving the game and fixing what is wrong long after the bean counters say end it.

I hope that in 5 or 6 months from now you return and find that the game has indeed gotten a lot better and choose to play it again.

Theonlystd · #3 December 5th, 2006, 01:42 AM

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Atrocities said:
I can relate to what you have said. In fact I was just sitting here as the PC warmed up thinking about the game and about how I just don't feel that it measures up to the previous version. I don't see a lot of the more serious issues being resloved in the face of poor sales in a sales dictates support environment. I cannot help but agree that the sense is that even the developer might have lost hope for this title.

But I also keep reminding myself that this game and its developer are not like other game companies. That despite the many flaws of the game, it will get better over time. That the developer will continue to work on improving the game and fixing what is wrong long after the bean counters say end it.

I hope that in 5 or 6 months from now you return and find that the game has indeed gotten a lot better and choose to play it again.

I hope so. Id love to play the game as it should of been.. Maybe ill be able to after some more patchs.. But it has a long ways to go..

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Suicide Junkie said:
First thing:
Don't play stock. Get Kwok's balance mod (AKA KwokStock)

You probably need to set the video memory to safe mode (in the video setup on the very first splash screen)

Those two things should relieve a lot of your issues.
Setting the Hotkeys to something you're used to, and shift-click on numbers and the design screen are big things for the UI side.

Me and my friend tried Mp in the balance mod and this computer has it and what i've been using.. The other one doesn't..

I've knocked down the video detail lvls ill try the safe mode thing maybe it'll get rid of the graphical problems. And yea those things make the UI easier but still its just a pain

Suicide Junkie · #4 December 5th, 2006, 01:03 AM

First thing:
Don't play stock. Get Kwok's balance mod (AKA KwokStock)

You probably need to set the video memory to safe mode (in the video setup on the very first splash screen)

Those two things should relieve a lot of your issues.
Setting the Hotkeys to something you're used to, and shift-click on numbers and the design screen are big things for the UI side.

Santiago · #5 December 5th, 2006, 01:27 AM

I had a lot of issues until I went to safe mode, but that begs the question. How many people are having to use safe mode to be able to play and if its a high percentage then is there an underlying problem in the basic design of the game/graphics engine? Or does it work on one pc, the developer's?

ps Kwok's Balance Mod Rocks

@ Atrocities - while I agrre with you to some extent that it doesn't measure up, Do you have direct knowledge of poor sales or this sense that the developer has lost hope for this title or is this behind the scenes rumours? Curiosity really, Not everyone is in the know.

President_Elect_Shang · #6 December 5th, 2006, 01:31 AM

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Santiago said:
Curiosity really, Not everyone is in the know.

Some of us just prefer not to know. A little faith� If it�s all the same I would prefer this one be kept to PM�s please.

Atrocities · #7 December 5th, 2006, 10:54 AM

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Do you have direct knowledge of poor sales or this sense that the developer has lost hope for this title or is this behind the scenes rumours?

Huh? WTH? No no, I don't have any such direct knowledge and have editted my comments to avoid giving that impression.

I was trying to relate to the poster and how he felt about SE V. I have been there, with games like BOTF, Rebellion, Tribes Vengence, and Moo3. In other words I have been in his shoes. I wanted to express to him that SE V is not like other games and that despite its flaws it will continue to get better. I simply just didn't articulate my comments well enough to correctly express my intentions.

I play SE V daily and am very thankful for such a privlage. I have nothing but faith in the developer and the game.

The Gnome · #8 December 5th, 2006, 11:13 AM

I guess I'm lucky having had no expectations for the game at all. I had just gone through massive disappointment with NWN2 though and know what you mean.

It's harder to accept flaws in something that you're really passionate about.

Ragnarok-X · #9 December 5th, 2006, 12:09 PM

Oh yeah, good one. Which is more disappointing, SEV or NWN2 ? Both are horrible bugged, but NWN2 at least offers decent graphics.

lol

tesco samoa · #10 December 5th, 2006, 10:00 PM

Theonlysdt.

Games should not cause so much frustration. SE can cause that frustration. SEIV I hate the game. Hate it. The combat system sucks. Imagine playing a game for 6 months and the combat system kills 100 % of your ships to 0% of the enemy. It still does it today in stock and after many patches. I still play it once in awhile. Mind you its awhile but some people here try to drag me back in. Feel like it is the Godfather.

As to your comments.

You got a few choices.

1. Shelf it and come back in a few months / patches to see what has happened.

2. Dump it and forget about it.

3. Shelf it and work on one of the mods starting out here and only play the game to work/test the mod. ( enjoyable and you get to meet some people from around the world ( Added bonus of the game getting patched and causing chaos on your mod ))

4. Continue to post what you like and dislike about the game. Post what does not work and ask a tester to forward you bugs ( email your bugs as well )

5. Something else :-) If it does not catch you then it does not catch you. SEIV reminded me of my love of MOO and Steel Panthers.

SE is a game that you gotta hate to love. It has a family and members come and go. I am one who has left. I lurk now and try to figure out how i got out of gaming ( well i think about it maybe 2 minutes a month ) I have a commitment to beta test sev so I continue to do that for a few hours each week.

Follow your heart. I think you have enough passion about the game to complain about it. Perhaps you see that it can evolve into something. The question is. Do you wish to shape it or not?

I hope this post does not offend you. It was not its intention. It was only to offer suggestions. Take Care and enjoy your days.