SE4, SE5 and Vista?

AMF · #1 April 2nd, 2007, 01:55 AM

My apologies if this has been asked already, but does anyone know how compatible SE4 and SE5 are with Vista? And, for that matter, whether Vista is worth it? I'm returning to the States soon, and I'll need to buy a computer, and, of course, one of the factors that counts for me is making sure I can play SE4 on it. And, if SE5 is improved upon, whether it will also work on Vista...

Thanks in advance,

AMF

Randallw · #2 April 2nd, 2007, 02:47 AM

I can't help you with compatibility, however I have a nice comic you might like. Despite appearances the author likes Vista.

http://www.ctrlaltdel-online.com/comic.php?d=20070331

Fyron · #3 April 2nd, 2007, 03:57 AM

They seem to work fine on Vista.

If you buy Vista, make sure to get Home Premium and not the crippleware Home Basic garbage. You don't want the Business editions for a gaming PC, and the Ultimate edition is very pricey.

dogscoff · #4 April 2nd, 2007, 06:36 AM

I will be avoiding Vista for as long as possible. I'll probably have to have it on a work machine, because sooner or later our customers who are using it will start phoning me up for tech support, but I'm going to press my boss to let me keep my old XP box alongside it, and I don't think I'll ever be using Vista at home.

From everything I've read, it doens't offer any worthwhile new features over XP. Basically there's no real reason to buy it excpet for (a) some stupid frosted glass eye candy or something and (b) Microsoft are going to try to bully software writers into making stuff incompatible with older version by refusing to make direct X 10 work on XP, thus forcing users to switch in order to run new games and apps. That's just extortion, in my view, and if that's the only way way can persuade people to upgrade then their operating must really suck, so will resist as long as possible. A new product should be a carrot, they shouldn't have to turn the old one into a stick.

Reasons for NOT getting Vista: you get (a) all this contraversial DRM stuff that everyone's going on about, which (if you believe the worst-case scenario ppl) cripples your media and sells your grandmother to a glue factory, or at best is just yet another layer of MS bloat to slow all your shiny new hardware back down to the performance of an arthritic Pentium II (b) an immature operating system riddled with brand new, as-yet undocumented security holes (it is MS after all) - at least XP has had a few years of updates to plug the worst of them.

So basically, I see no incentive whatsoever to 'up'grade to Vista. My next home PC will be Linux, or maybe a Mac (I think the wife might get on well with a Mac). SE will just have to work under emulation, or maybe I'll maintain an old XP box or dual boot to 98 or something- God knows there's enough install CDs and licence keys for that floating around.

Microsoft can kiss my hairy pink posterior.

Randallw · #5 April 2nd, 2007, 08:07 AM

I have a question. Some time ago I saw a video on youtube for a new interface. The desktop was literally a desktop with documents as bits of paper lying on it. You could trace around a bunch of them to combine, and using the mouse sort them. I thought this was the new vista desktop but I might be wrong. Is that how vistas interface works, or was it some students project?

AMF · #6 April 2nd, 2007, 09:42 AM

Thanks for the advice all..

Don't get me wrong - I too am *very* ambivalent about getting Vista, and I am toying with the idea of just going with linux myself...but I'm no longer enough of a linux-head to feel totally confident that I can do that and still get everything done that I want to...so, it sounds like, I'll probably just go with another XP machine...

Thanks,

AMF

Ps: I'm writing this from a internet cafe in Siam Riep Cambodia, in the shadow of Angkor Wat...gotta love the 21st century...

Azselendor · #7 April 2nd, 2007, 11:20 AM

As nice as vista sounds, it sadly has a piece of nagware.

But on the upside, and I need to look this up to make sure, Vista did win an award for being very secure.

btw, has anyone given this a try?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reactos

Baron Munchausen · #8 April 2nd, 2007, 02:14 PM

Quote:

dogscoff said:
I will be avoiding Vista for as long as possible. I'll probably have to have it on a work machine, because sooner or later our customers who are using it will start phoning me up for tech support, but I'm going to press my boss to let me keep my old XP box alongside it, and I don't think I'll ever be using Vista at home.

From everything I've read, it doesn't offer any worthwhile new features over XP. Basically there's no real reason to buy it except for (a) some stupid frosted glass eye candy or something and (b) Microsoft are going to try to bully software writers into making stuff incompatible with older version by refusing to make direct X 10 work on XP, thus forcing users to switch in order to run new games and apps. That's just extortion, in my view, and if that's the only way way can persuade people to upgrade then their operating must really suck, so will resist as long as possible. A new product should be a carrot, they shouldn't have to turn the old one into a stick.

Remember all the news stories about how they were putting things off? They canceled everything that was going to be 'new and different' like the new file system, just to get something out the door. What is 'new' is the additional system requirements. But then that was expected. Every new version of Windows eats the hardware gains made since the last release.

Quote:

dogscoff said:
Reasons for NOT getting Vista: you get (a) all this contraversial DRM stuff that everyone's going on about, which (if you believe the worst-case scenario ppl) cripples your media and sells your grandmother to a glue factory, or at best is just yet another layer of MS bloat to slow all your shiny new hardware back down to the performance of an arthritic Pentium II (b) an immature operating system riddled with brand new, as-yet undocumented security holes (it is MS after all) - at least XP has had a few years of updates to plug the worst of them.

So basically, I see no incentive whatsoever to 'up'grade to Vista. My next home PC will be Linux, or maybe a Mac (I think the wife might get on well with a Mac). SE will just have to work under emulation, or maybe I'll maintain an old XP box or dual boot to 98 or something- God knows there's enough install CDs and licence keys for that floating around.

Microsoft can kiss my hairy pink posterior.

LOL!

Yep, I've got several Linux distributions on order with my new HDs. I think I can even make backups of my XP partition using Linux and not have to figure out how to circumvent the 'anti-piracy' measures in XP (Win9x could be copied to another drive/partition but XP makes this impossible, on purpose!) Once I learn how to do everything I need to do in Linux, XP will just be a secondary OS that I boot only when required. When I buy a completely new computer I hope it will be Linux only. You never know if MS might manage to trap some poor vendor into their OS, though. I can get a Mac to use Adobe products. (Dang, I wish they'd do Linux!) But there might be something I still need Windows for. At least they've publicly committed to support XP until 2014. Hopefully I can just move my XP license if necessary and not have to buy any more MS products.

That's why I've been trying to get MM to support WINE. We need the SE series to run on something other than Windows.