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April 17th, 2007, 02:47 PM
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OOB 06 France - Mech
Some points about the new french VBCI:
- missing versions:
As far as I know, they are not yet in service, but will be before 2015, which is the limit year for the end of all VBCI deliveries
VBCI VCI: already in-game
VBCI "Rang Eryx": missing, in service before 2015
VBCI VPC: missing, command vehicle, in service very soon, if not already; command vehicle for mech and armored (Leclerc) regiments; armament: only a 12,7 mm machine gun
VBCI "Rang mortier": missing, with a 81mm mortar, before 2015
VBCI ???: long range AT version, missile unknown after the end of trigan/AC3G-MP missile. Waiting that french army chooses a new missile to replace the Milan 3.
- armor: the armor of the VBCI is sayed to be class 5, which mean resistant to 14,5mm and whith restrictions 20/25mm. The in-game armor seems a bit weak for a class 5, and its the same than the AMX-10 one or the Stryker. In fact, even it is a wheeled VCI, it weights 26T, when AMX-10 is 10/14T and Stryker 16/18T. Seems to me that more than 10T more should appear a bit more in armor, but I maybe wrong: I have a doubt about the Combat/Empty weight of the vehicles above...
Hope that could help, but I won't cry if you think, there is no reason to do such improvement, with so few precise datas...
Sources:
- Wheight:
http://www.army-technology.com/projects/amx/
http://www.army-technology.com/projects/vbci/specs.html
http://www.army-technology.com/proje...ker/specs.html
-Armor/Versions/Armament:
http://www.pes-edition.com/fantassin...SSIN_16/11.pdf
in french:
http://www.chars-francais.net/archives/vbci.htm
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April 17th, 2007, 05:05 PM
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Re: OOB 06 France - Mech
I forgot to say that VBCI is unit 096
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"On 17 January, I started with 39 tanks. After 38 days of aerial attacks, I had 32, but in less than 20 minutes with the M1A1,1 had zero." an Iraqi
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April 17th, 2007, 05:08 PM
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Re: OOB 06 France - Mech
The patch is just about done and I'm not adding things like this now. There will be plenty of time between now and 2015 to do that
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April 17th, 2007, 05:09 PM
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Re: OOB 06 France - Mech
Right 
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April 17th, 2007, 06:50 PM
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Re: OOB 06 France - Mech
Comparison with other IFV, like Warrior (24T) or CV90 (26T) let me think that the level of protection of the VBCI has really been underestimated. Only the Marder (33T), the Bradley (30T) and the future Puma (31T up to 43T) among those I saw where of greater weight.
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April 17th, 2007, 07:00 PM
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Re: OOB 06 France - Mech
OK, when you come up with some hard data for me to look at, I will look at it.
It's a LAV like vehicle and has a higher armour rating than the US Stryker in the game. Everyone wants their nations toys to be better. My job is to keep it under control and WHY are you comparing a wheeled IFV with tracked APC's ????
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