Do provinces grow in pop without Growth Domain?

[IndyPendant]

Hi all.

I did some experimenting the other day, and thought I would doublecheck my results. I created a game with Man and no Growth scales, and my capital and the one province I conquered never grew in population, at all, for the 15 or so turns I went through.

Then I created Man with Growth-3, and the capital grew at exactly (and no more than) the 0.6% per turn the Growth scale gave, while the conquered province grew slightly out of proportion in percentage (it looks like there's a minimum pop growth--in a Growth-Scale province--of 10 people per turn).

Is that correct? For any growth at all to happen, do you need Growth scales?

Also, is this detailed in Teh Buk anywhere?

--Thanks.

[DrPraetorious]

You can get occasional population changes from random events, but yes, otherwise, only growth causes population to go up.

The 10 point minimum is not surprising; I don't think it keeps track of values below 10.

[Juzza]

I personaly don't like this, I think that provinces should increase by a small amount each turn, weather it be 0.05 percent or more or less, it should happen even without 1 growth and having 1 death rather than killing the population, simply stopping the gain, I mean, there are more than enough, spells and random events to decrease population and it seems kinda silly to me, that if your dominion has no growth that over years, the population may stay exactly the same.

[Theonlystd]

always annoyed me to..

Esp since patrolling ,events, can have an effect on population esp during a long game..

[Acenoid]

Hi there!

First posting after a long time

Don't have the game yet but skimming through the forums already because I have ordered it.

However this sounds really strange because as I understand it -3 is worst 0 is average and +3 is a bonus (or in case of heat not necessarily due to obvious reasons).

Now this looks like a bug to me and not like a "feature". Otherwise anyone has an explanation for this behavior?

Regards

[thejeff]

0 is the neutral state. No growth no death.

When you buy growth your population grows.
When you take death your population dies.

It's really very simple.

The devs have stated it's intentional that it's far easier in general to lose population than gain it.
The game takes place over a period of a few years, hardly time for a population boom to grow up.
And it's the endtimes. An apocalyptic religious war. People get killed. Lots of them.
Once a pretender wins, then populations can grow again, assuming thats what the new pantokrator wants...