Trying to build super-hero, but he dies too easy!

[StellarRat]

So, I took my best hero (39 HP) gave him the Obsidian Armor, Black Plate Helmet, a ring of regeneration, anti-magic amulet, the multi-spectral sword, and the Druid Boots that keep you from getting tired. I sent him off to wipe out a small group of lizard dudes (I think there were 30 of them and a priest). He got killed! From the description of the Obsidian armor and the ring of regen, it seem to me he should have been getting HP back every turn, but this did not seem to happen. What am I doing wrong? Note: The Sword was highly effective and I was not taking damage from using it.

[sector24]

My standard SC in singleplayer is a Wraith Lord with:

Spirit Helm
Boots of Quickness
Luck item (Faithful or Pendant of Luck)
An AE sword like a Fire Brand helps too.

Script Soul Vortex -> Attack Rear. The cold aura and the soul vortex wipes out most everything in single player. From there you can develop your own guy. Examples:

Air 4 unit with ring of tamed lightning and some air gems.
Script Wrathful Skies -> Eat Sandwich.

An earth magic SC can wear a ring of regeneration and some defense gear and spam earthquake.

From my brief experience it sounds like your defense keeps going down every time you get attacked in the same combat round, so if you get swarmed you can still die. AE damage is the key. And of course none of this stuff by itself works in MP, but I'm sure that's not an issue for you at this point.

[Shovah32]

Check out the 'Looking for SC pointers' thread. Should be helpful.

[Taqwus]

sector24 said:
From my brief experience it sounds like your defense keeps going down every time you get attacked in the same combat round, so if you get swarmed you can still die.

It does indeed. -2 DEF for every previous melee attack in the same round, I believe. Beware Mandragora...

In addition, most die rolls -- including most damage rolls -- are open-ended, meaning it's theoretically possible for any one hit to do tremendous amounts of damage. In addition, afflictions can quickly reduce your survival odds; blindness, in particular, drops att/def/prec to 0 on most units.

Prot is useful against many attacks (again, beware sleep vines!). Damage shields are handy... The Aegis is -very- nasty, because it can kill enemies before they even make a hit roll against you.

[Cor2]

Sounds like
1) Obsidian Armor gives very very low defence (but great protection)
2) you attacked independants that get extra attacks, meaning that basically every attack hit.

my advise: Add a pendent of luck, lucky coin sheild, or lucky (the sword). and most importantly, get rid of that mudane helmet and give him a wraith crown. The combination of ethereal and lucky should not be underestimated.


Also synergize your hero's magic with his equipment. If you have earth 2 you don't need heavy armor, have him cast summon earth power > invonerablilty >then attack. If you have astral you can cast body ethereal and personal luck so you can use those extra item slots for other stuff. almost every path has some spell good for buffing SCs. even mossbody is fun.

The ideal SC for me would be a seraph with the mage bane, aegis, crown of Amon Hotep,bone armor, boots of driud guy, the Ark , and Krupps bracers.

That would be impossible to do in am MP game, and if you managed you have already won.

[Lazy_Perfectionist]

You need to tell us the chassis of your hero.

If lifeless, then regen will not work, I believe. On the other hand, the undead have melee encumberance capped at zero, so reinvig is not necessary except in certain situations.

[StellarRat]

He was a Marvari Canute Leader (not sure about the spelling, the druid dudes), the most expensive one you can buy (travels on foot.) I would like to point out that you can't carry a shield when using the multi-color sword because it's a two-handed weapon. Also, do magic items stack their abilities? Would two lucky items make someone luckier than one? Or two regenerating items?

[konming]

Cor2 said:
Sounds like
1) Obsidian Armor gives very very low defence (but great protection)
2) you attacked independants that get extra attacks, meaning that basically every attack hit.

my advise: Add a pendent of luck, lucky coin sheild, or lucky (the sword). and most importantly, get rid of that mudane helmet and give him a wraith crown. The combination of ethereal and lucky should not be underestimated.


Also synergize your hero's magic with his equipment. If you have earth 2 you don't need heavy armor, have him cast summon earth power > invonerablilty >then attack. If you have astral you can cast body ethereal and personal luck so you can use those extra item slots for other stuff. almost every path has some spell good for buffing SCs. even mossbody is fun.

The ideal SC for me would be a seraph with the mage bane, aegis, crown of Amon Hotep,bone armor, boots of driud guy, the Ark , and Krupps bracers.

That would be impossible to do in am MP game, and if you managed you have already won.

No you have not . A few life for a life will kill the seraph easily. Or simply infernal prison and he is gone for many turns. When he is out, just throw him in again.

[Cor2]

konming said:


No you have not . A few life for a life will kill the seraph easily. Or simply infernal prison and he is gone for many turns. When he is out, just throw him in again.

True enough.
What i meant was that if you have the resources to create all those artifacts before all the other players and you have a seraph your gold. Not that teh Seraph would win you the game, though it won't hurt.

[thejeff]

Just to suggest a few tweaks to that build.

In SP, mr isn't really needed. Replace the amulet with the luck pendant. That cuts the attacks that hit in half.

Otherwise he doesn't look to bad. 39 hps is low to solo. You don't get a lot of regen and and a few lucky hits can take you out or at least cripple you.
Check the fight more closely. Did he get fatigued? Was he cursed? (Up against indy lizards he probably was. Avoid SCs versus lizards) Did he get crippling afflictions.

In addition to the damage shield suggestion, fear is really good. Replace that helmet with a Horror Helmet, watch the lizards run away.