| 
 | 
     
    
    
    
     
    
    
    
 
    
    
 
    
     
    
    
    
     
    
    
    
     
    
    
    
 
    
    
 
    
    
 | 
       | 
      
 
 
	| 
		
		View Poll Results: Is it OK to 'feed' an ally
	 | 
 
	| 
		
			Yes
		
		
	 | 
	
		    
	 | 
	66 | 
	86.84% | 
 
	| 
		
			No
		
		
	 | 
	
		    
	 | 
	10 | 
	13.16% | 
 
	
 
 
 
	
		  | 
	
	
 
 
		
	
	
	
		
	
	
	
		
		
		
			
			 
			
				May 10th, 2008, 12:41 AM
			
			
			
		  
	 | 
 
	
		
		
		
			
			| 
 
  
			
				
				
				BANNED USER 
				
				
				
			 | 
			  | 
			
				
				
					Join Date: Dec 2007 
					Location: Illinois 
					
					
						Posts: 1,133
					 
					 
	Thanks: 25 
	
		
			
				Thanked 59 Times in 36 Posts
			
		
	 
					
					
					
					     
				 
				
			 | 
		 
		 
		
	 | 
 
    
	
     
	
	
		
		
		
			
			
				 
				is feeding acceptable or not
	
			 
             
			
		
		
		
		When a player chooses to go AI, is it acceptable for them to give all their stuff to another player? 
 
My take: 
 
Most honorable is to never go AI, fight to the last scrap.  Your fighting for godhood after all, to lose is likely to be banished for another eternity to some very undesirable place. 
 
Going AI is acceptable when the end is neigh, it isn't much fun to play that out.  However giving all your stuff away is unacceptable on both the thematic and gaming axes.  Thematically unacceptable for the same reason it is best to never go AI.  Gamewise unacceptable because it gives players disruptive and unwarranted boosts of power. 
 
I read about this happening, and I also read grumbling about it.  I personally feel it is wrong, yet some act as if it is natural and OK.  Natural maybe, humans are conniving, but I don't think it is OK at all. 
 
That's my stance, how do others feel? 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
	
		
		
	
	
	 | 
 
 
 
	 
	
		 
	 
 
	
	
		
	
	
	
		
		
		
			
			 
			
				May 10th, 2008, 12:44 AM
			
			
			
		  
	 | 
 
	
		
		
		
			  | 
			
			
				
				
				 Major General 
				
				
				
			 | 
			  | 
			
				
				
					Join Date: Oct 2006 
					Location: Tennessee USA 
					
					
						Posts: 2,059
					 
					 
	Thanks: 229 
	
		
			
				Thanked 106 Times in 71 Posts
			
		
	 
					
					
					
					     
				 
				
			 | 
		 
		 
		
	 | 
 
    
	
     
	
	
		
		
		
			
			
				 
				Re: is feeding acceptable or not
			 
             
			
		
		
		
		I voted acceptable. People are allowed to make crazy alliances that can span more than half the players in the game to take out players one by one. Surely you cannot fault players for giving some gems and gold to other players on their way out. The game mechanics allow for it more than they do alliances, NAPs etc. 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
				__________________ 
				BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH NEXT TURN.
			 
		
		
		
		
		
		
	
		
		
	
	
	 | 
 
 
 
	 
	
		 
	 
 
	
	
		
	
	
	
		
		
		
			
			 
			
				May 10th, 2008, 12:49 AM
			
			
			
		  
	 | 
 
	
		
		
		
			  | 
			
 
  
			
				
				
				Major General 
				
				
				
			 | 
			  | 
			
				
				
					Join Date: Jan 2004 
					Location: Columbus, OH 
					
					
						Posts: 2,204
					 
					 
	Thanks: 67 
	
		
			
				Thanked 49 Times in 31 Posts
			
		
	 
					
					
					
					     
				 
				
			 | 
		 
		 
		
	 | 
 
    
	
     
	
	
		
		
		
			
			
				 
				Re: is feeding acceptable or not
			 
             
			
		
		
		
		The only time I ran afoul of this was when Sensori in a game I was playing in just randomly spewed gems to people completely unrelated to his current state of affairs. While it didn't matter much in the end, he gave like 40 gems to my opponent who had maintained zero diplomatic relations before him. 
 
That irritated the piss out of me. Besides random distribution I see no problem with pumping you allies. 
 
Jazzepi 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
	
		
		
	
	
	 | 
 
 
 
	 
	
		 
	 
 
	
	
		
	
	
	
		
		
		
			
			 
			
				May 10th, 2008, 01:19 AM
			
			
			
		  
	 | 
 
	
		
		
		
			
			| 
 
  
			
				
				
				First Lieutenant 
				
				
				
			 | 
			  | 
			
				
				
					Join Date: Feb 2008 
					Location: Reno, Nevada 
					
					
						Posts: 605
					 
					 
	Thanks: 11 
	
		
			
				Thanked 5 Times in 5 Posts
			
		
	 
					
					
					
					     
				 
				
			 | 
		 
		 
		
	 | 
 
    
	
     
	
	
		
		
		
			
			
				 
				Re: is feeding acceptable or not
			 
             
			
		
		
		
		I think it's very thematic.   
 
Consider the case of the king who, under mortal assault from a rival nation, sends his only son, the child prince, into hiding with a trusted servant.  With him he took three magic items from the treasury... 
 
I mean, you can't argue with that. 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
		
		
		
		
		
		
	
		
		
	
	
	 | 
 
 
 
	 
	
		 
	 
 
	
	
		
	
	
	
		
		
		
			
			 
			
				May 10th, 2008, 02:04 AM
			
			
			
		  
	 | 
 
	
		
		
		
			
			| 
 
  
			
				
				
				BANNED USER 
				
				
				
			 | 
			  | 
			
				
				
					Join Date: Dec 2007 
					Location: Illinois 
					
					
						Posts: 1,133
					 
					 
	Thanks: 25 
	
		
			
				Thanked 59 Times in 36 Posts
			
		
	 
					
					
					
					     
				 
				
			 | 
		 
		 
		
	 | 
 
    
	
     
	
	
		
		
		
			
			
				 
				Re: is feeding acceptable or not
			 
             
			
		
		
		
		the pretender fighting for godhood sends his... son?... into hiding with three items that he could have used in his fight for godhood? 
 
and who are we talking about here?  i mean is ry'leh going to send any of the lesser beings their stuff?  and I can't picture the mind-flayer child prince. 
 
you forget that we are not feudal lards, but are in fact pretenders who want nothing more than to see every other one dead.  The cost for not doing so is high.  Alliances are in fact only temporary mutually beneficial agreements that we kill other people before we kill each other.  there is never any real loyalty. 
 
EDIT: 
this is making me laugh now: 
 
"Dear beloved 'ally'.  It seems the enemy have overrun my empire and with it my hopes of becoming god.  please accept my only child.  I'm sending a diaper bag full of death gems and a handful of magic items with him" 
 
P.s.  you can throw away the kid if you want to, he was only a tissue thin rationalization anyway.  just keep the goodies. 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
	
		
		
	
	
	 | 
 
 
 
	 
	
		 
	 
 
	
	
		
	
	
	
		
		
		
			
			 
			
				May 10th, 2008, 02:12 AM
			
			
			
		  
	 | 
 
	
		
		
		
			
			| 
 
  
			
				
				
				Corporal 
				
				
				
			 | 
			  | 
			
				
				
					Join Date: May 2007 
					
					
					
						Posts: 129
					 
					 
	Thanks: 0 
	
		
			
				Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
			
		
	 
					
					
					
					     
				 
				
			 | 
		 
		 
		
	 | 
 
    
	
     
	
	
		
		
		
			
			
				 
				Re: is feeding acceptable or not
			 
             
			
		
		
		
		
	Quote: 
	
	
		
			
				Omnirizon said: 
you forget that we are not feudal lards, but are in fact pretenders who want nothing more than to see every other one dead.  The cost for not doing so is high.  Alliances are in fact only temporary mutually beneficial agreements that we kill other people before we kill each other.  there is never any real loyalty.  
			
		 | 
	 
	 
 Nobody is saying there is loyalty. What there is, however, is a desire to spite your enemies, even from beyond the grave. How on earth is that unthematic?  
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
	
		
		
	
	
	 | 
 
 
 
	 
	
		 
	 
 
	
	
		
	
	
	
		
		
		
			
			 
			
				May 10th, 2008, 07:01 AM
			
			
			
		  
	 | 
 
	
		
		
		
			  | 
			
 
  
			
				
				
				General 
				
				
				
			 | 
			  | 
			
				
				
					Join Date: Feb 2001 
					Location: Pittsburgh, PA, USA 
					
					
						Posts: 3,070
					 
					 
	Thanks: 13 
	
		
			
				Thanked 9 Times in 8 Posts
			
		
	 
					
					
					
					     
				 
				
			 | 
		 
		 
		
	 | 
 
    
	
     
	
	
		
		
		
			
			
				 
				Re: is feeding acceptable or not
			 
             
			
		
		
		
		
	Quote: 
	
	
		
			
				Omnirizon said: who are we talking about here?  i mean is ry'leh going to send any of the lesser beings their stuff?  and I can't picture the mind-flayer child prince. 
			
		 | 
	 
	 
  You obviously haven't read enough Lovecraft.    "Your Majesty, may I present to you Prince Wilbur, Thane of Whateley".  
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
				__________________ 
				Cap'n Q 
 
"Good morning, Pooh Bear," said Eeyore gloomily. "If it is a good morning," he said. "Which I doubt," said he.
			 
		
		
		
		
		
		
	
		
		
	
	
	 | 
 
 
 
	 
	
		 
	 
 
 
	
		
	
	
	
	
	
	
	| Thread Tools | 
	
 
	| 
	
	
	
	 | 
	
 
	| Display Modes | 
	
 
	
	
	
	
		
		  Hybrid Mode 
		
	 
	
	 | 
	
	
 
 
	
		
	
		 
		Posting Rules
	 | 
 
	
		
		You may not post new threads 
		You may not post replies 
		You may not post attachments 
		You may not edit your posts 
		 
		
		
		
		
		HTML code is On 
		 
		
	  | 
 
 
	 | 
	
		
	 | 
 
 
     |  
 |