Computer player - attacks/counterattacks. How it works ?

[EpoletovSPR]

I created scenario for Human vs Computer battle.
Computer player doesn't want to take VH.
Its armies go to me to the rear line.
Computer player armies don't search for my armies - stop in the my rear line and don't maneuver it is more.


Really computer such fool ?!
As AI works in battle ?!
As to me to make that it grasped VH and search for my armies for battle ?!

[gila]

Yes the AI is a fool,but I personaly have never seen this kind thing you decribe happen.

The AI always goes headlong for VH's but adjusts somewhat when it finds the enemy on it's way,as to take out resistant forces for example,but the VH's are always the main focus.

It could be a large map and you left too many gaps in your line??
In that case they broke through and searched out your rear assets.

[EpoletovSPR]

winSPMBT 6.0

I did tests:
Map 100x60.
Create Assault and Meeting Engagement scenario, manual purschase units for both side.
VH in total in one, no rear line VH.
My unit (APC) grasped this VH and retreating, and hide.
Armies of the computer moved to pass by VH to the my rear line battlefield and stop there and no moved, only defending fire.

[scJazz]

Does the VH have a value? The AI will drive toward the highest value hex that is closest. If the VH has no value the AI will ignore it.

[EpoletovSPR]

VH have cost.

[Imp]

Not heard of quite as you describe but the AI can be unpredictable, normaly goes for the VHexes but have known it ignore them till half way through the game & make a B line for my rear area. It also is not uncommon for it to ignore them at the start heading straight past them & then swinging round, trying for a flanking move possibly.
In your case sounds like it did something along those lines & then decided to hold the routes to the Vhexes. It will probably decide to take them later in the game.
Sometimes these tactics make for a poor game but can also make for a very good one because its been unpredictable.

[EpoletovSPR]

I made one more test.
Usual Meeting engagement battle.
AI attacked VH and came back to them again.

Probably in manual created scenario AI becomes the fool ?
There will be new tests...

[DRG]

It is a waste of time DISCUSSING this without SEEING the scenario so post it and then it will be much simpler to see what's going on then try to guess what you are forgetting to tell us.

I have no doubt what we don't know will be significant because, as others have already said, this is unusual behavior and if it was normal more than you would report it.

My guess is you have a high cost VH off map but without actually seeing the damn thing we are all just spewing hot air but inexperienced scenario / map designer + weird results usually = serious scenario design flaws ( but it's SO much easier to immediately blame the AI....)

What we want to see is the FIRST scenario you were complaining about.

Don

[Mobhack]

As Don says - we would need to see your original scenario.

but -
- ensure that all victory hexes have a value of 50+ and are on the map
- ensure that you have set up reaction turns for all AI HQs too.

Your other statement about ignoring the hexes and charging past in an advancing situation - is now normal AI behaviour. The AI can and will decide to "go deep" in Camo games, ignoring any V hexes it considers too far away to deviate for, for now.

Very fast armies - like the USSR tanks and APC mix - can therefore camp out a force on your baseline for a wee while, looking for nearby troops to bash, e.g. your arty park, if you left a clear path to the rear zone. Then this pack will eventually go for the objectives from that area, which can result in a "rear assault". It's happened to me with a thundering great herd of T-62 and BMP unexpectedly arriving right up my derrière ... And, no, I had no scouts out watching that road along the top of the map into to my rear area.

Do not expect the troops to simply make a straight line for any victory hexes laid out. In the early game, they will tend to avoid those too far away and proceed with advancing into enemy territory initially. Also, tanks may wait a turn or 2 before advancing at all, letting the light troops go first (light tanks, mech inf, recce).

Our AI does not do the "tin lemming charge" act of the original SSI code .

Cheers
Andy

[EpoletovSPR]

Here this scenario.

It is very interesting question - AI and its tactics.)
Now I strongly busy, but I will return to tests and to discussion.