Infernal Sword

[Ragnars Wolves]

I was just wondering about this artifact.

Its major use seems to be to stop your opponent from casting banishment on your demons or undead troops.

However, it also raises your priest by 1 level. That didn't bother me much until I got to wondering if your are not a priest at all will the sword still work? What if I wanted to GOR a Devil so I had a flying commander and gave him the sword. Would the effects of no banishment still work?

Also, as long as I am asking that question, I might as well ask this (as it has been bugging me a little)....What exactly is the benefit of a Lvl 1 priest and a higher lvl Priest?

Thanks

(And NO, I don't have the testing, debug, or any other of those things or know how to use them...sorry guys I am REALLY, REALLY computer challenged. So sorry for asking things that I could find out easily if I knew more)

[Finalgenesis]

There's new priest spells on each higher level, and every two level gives a penetration bonus, banishment also gets AoE bonus from priest level.

A lvl 3 priest's banishment covers a larger area in addition to having a higher chance to damage undead/demons due to +1 pen as compared to a lvl 1 priest.

sermon of courage at lvl 2, smite + divine bless at lvl 3 are all useful spells, lvl 4 fanaticism is decent too.

[earwicker7]

Originally Posted by Finalgenesis

There's new priest spells on each higher level, and every two level gives a penetration bonus, banishment also gets AoE bonus from priest level.

A lvl 3 priest's banishment covers a larger area in addition to having a higher chance to damage undead/demons due to +1 pen as compared to a lvl 1 priest.

sermon of courage at lvl 2, smite + divine bless at lvl 3 are all useful spells, lvl 4 fanaticism is decent too.

Fairly new... what is a penetration bonus?

[Stavis_L]

Assuming you mean the Sword of Injustice (which matches your description) and not the Infernal Sword (which does not), the following apply:

1) Units with no priest levels will not benefit from the +1 priest level. This is true in general for magic path boosters (e.g. blood stones don't grant a pathless commander 1E.)

2) The wielder can still cast the spell from the sword despite having no priest levels.

3) +1 priest level can be enormously beneficial if e.g. going from 2H to 3H (get battlefield wide blessing + smite). 3H to 4H lets you definitively site search for all holy sites (very minor benefit) and gives the ability to cast level 4 priest spells (e.g. Fanaticism) as well as making banishment more effective.

The Infernal Sword, on the other hand, is a tool to try to banish SCs to Inferno.

Of course, if you're a NINJA you don't need swords like these to be dangerous...

[llamabeast]

I don't think there is any item which stops your opponents from casting Banishment on you is there?

[Stavis_L]

Originally Posted by llamabeast

I don't think there is any item which stops your opponents from casting Banishment on you is there?

No, but the sword onebattlespell-casts Protection of the Sepulchre which somewhat mitigates the effect of Banishment.

[Kobal2]

Originally Posted by Stavis_L

No, but the sword onebattlespell-casts Protection of the Sepulchre which somewhat mitigates the effect of Banishment.

The OP seems to assume this spell also protects demons... does it ? I know demons require Undead leadership and share many attributes with undeads (neither eats, neither is affected by Darkness, etc...) but are demons affected by an undead buff ?

[Stavis_L]

Originally Posted by Kobal2

The OP seems to assume this spell also protects demons... does it ? I know demons require Undead leadership and share many attributes with undeads (neither eats, neither is affected by Darkness, etc...) but are demons affected by an undead buff ?

According to DrPraetorius's spell effect database, the Protection of the Sepulchre spell effect has the oUndead flag, which means it should take effect only on undead, not demons.

So, to the OP, not too useful protection wise for your generic demon armies. Mixed demons + undead, however, is a different story. Also, if you're e.g. Lanka, access to higher priest-level demon-only buffs may be a factor.

[Ragnars Wolves]

However, the description on the sword says the sword protects your 'minions' against the banishment spell....Demons have a problem with the banishment spell. So your saying that the descriptions on the weapons/artifacts etc are not correct in a number of instances?

That for me is just too much micro-management, to have to check the book, or a data base, or a post, to see if the game description is correct on every damn thing.

[Redeyes]

Originally Posted by llamabeast

I don't think there is any item which stops your opponents from casting Banishment on you is there?

There's always the Staff of Storms to lower the enemy's precision, although precision isn't too important with Banishment...