PBW ethics, opinions please. - Page 5

Ruatha · #41 January 11th, 2003, 01:47 AM

What is this term Gamey? Never heard of it before, it seems to be bad?

Fyron · #42 January 11th, 2003, 01:48 AM

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Multiple ship training faclities on several planets to reduce your training time. Gamey? or not gamey?

Well... the facilities do say "One Per Planet effective", and not "One Per Sector". So, there is no reason why you can't have more than one working in a sector on different planets.

I do not know if this was intentional or not on the part of MM, but that is how it is IMHO.

spoon · #43 January 11th, 2003, 01:49 AM

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Originally posted by Gozra:
Multiple ship training faclities on several planets to reduce your training time. Gamey? or not gamey?

Define "gamey"...

Gozra · #44 January 11th, 2003, 01:50 AM

Issue is not that the game allows it. The issue is if it is gamey or not. Grin and I feel what gamey is just have a hard time explaining it.

Gozra · #45 January 11th, 2003, 01:52 AM

I will take a stab at it.

How about: you would be not to do this in the real SEIV Universe but in the SEIV game you do it to get an advantage.

geoschmo · #46 January 11th, 2003, 01:59 AM

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Originally posted by Gozra:
I will take a stab at it.

How about: you would be not to do this in the real SEIV Universe but in the SEIV game you do it to get an advantage.

This is astart, but in some cases you have to be able to define what could or could not be done in a hypothetical "SEIV universe". Some things in the game are limitations for game play reasons, not any kind of "laws of the alternate universe" reasons.

Training facilities on moons are one of these. The mines per sector thing is another.

Basically a lot of these are subjective, there is no way around it. "I don't know art, but I know what I like". So the idea of playing with a core group of players you know and are comfortable with is a good idea if these things bother you a lot. Of course that can make it more difficult for new players to get a game, but eventually they will get enough people to give them a chance, and then they can earn a good reputation.

Geoschmo

Ruatha · #47 January 11th, 2003, 02:05 AM

Good explanation, I can see that 100 mines per sector would be impossible in the SE IV universe due to the mines setting eachother off, etc.
So I think that was a good explanation, if it's the true on I don't kbnow as I hadn't heard of it before.

[ January 11, 2003, 00:07: Message edited by: Ruatha ]

geoschmo · #48 January 11th, 2003, 02:11 AM

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Originally posted by Ruatha:
Good explanation, I can see that 100 mines per sector would be impossible in the SE IV universe due to the mines setting eachother off, etc.
So I think that was a good explanation, if it's the true on I don't kbnow as I hadn't heard of it before.

Ah, except that two empires can launch 100 miunes each in the same sector. This has always been allowed and I have never heard anyone complain about it. This fact alone is enough to demonstarte that the 100 mines per sector is not intended to be a realistic universe limit. It's a game thing to prevent people from putting thousands of mines up and bringing the game to a halt. You don't have to have an explanation for it that makes sense other than that.

Geoschmo

Fyron · #49 January 11th, 2003, 02:13 AM

Just bring enough to sweep 200 mines then. A little redundancy won't kill you.

spoon · #50 January 11th, 2003, 02:15 AM

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Originally posted by Gozra:

How about: you would be not to do this in the real SEIV Universe but in the SEIV game you do it to get an advantage.

Realism can be a poor measure to use to decide what you can and can't do in a game - especially for fantasy and sci-fi, since you can use magic or "high-tech" to explain most anything.