Repair Priorities

[Fyron]

That is an assumption of how it is supposed to work. An email to MM would clear this up.

[Arkcon]

Originally posted by Suicide Junkie:

First damaged control components were repaired, then shields then engines with weapons Last.
Then it moves on to the control components of ship #2, and so on?

No, no control components damaged, special weapon damage only

Originally posted by Pax:
I strongly suspect the priorities are PER SHIP, not per sector. The first ship enters the spacedock (or whatever), and it's components are repaired per the priority list.

When it's done, if any repair capacity is left, the next ship comes in, and IT'S components get repaired in order ...

Combat occured at a space station with a shipyard 1. No ships moved since before combat. This has been a test, this is only a test.

Doesn't really matter that much to me. I always fix engines and control first anyway. Maybe MM hardcoded it because it helps the AI vs engine destroyers?

[ February 02, 2003, 14:02: Message edited by: Arkcon ]

[Cheeze]

One thing I generally always change in the repair priorities is to raise Supply or Resupply near the top of the priority list, particularly when I have the quantum reactor. If I am retrofitting engines or adding the quantum reactor, I like to have it repaired first. That way, once the engines are up, the ship already has supplies it might not otherwise have, and can immediately head where it's needed, rather than limping along to a resupply depot.

[NAV]

Originally posted by Cheeze:
One thing I generally always change in the repair priorities is to raise Supply or Resupply near the top of the priority list, particularly when I have the quantum reactor. If I am retrofitting engines or adding the quantum reactor, I like to have it repaired first. That way, once the engines are up, the ship already has supplies it might not otherwise have, and can immediately head where it's needed, rather than limping along to a resupply depot.

I like to put construction at the top !!! That way if there was damage to your repair base over your home world your repair bays and space yards would be repaired first so others may assist in the repair of the fleets... Also when defending a warp point etc. You may have 2 repair ships with one damaged, this way the damaged one gets repaired first. This is my top chices...
1: Construction~Reasons stated above
2: Vehical Control~For ship operations
3: Engines~ So ship may get out of harms way for a repair base.

In regards to supply bays and engines I think when repaired all fuil is lost

[ February 02, 2003, 18:31: Message edited by: NAV ]

[Fyron]

"In regards to supply bays and engines I think when repaired all fuil is lost "

Not exactly. If the max supply level of the ship goes below the current supply level (from damage to engines, supply pods, etc.), the excess supplies are lost. It only makes sense. Where would the ship store 3000 supplies if it had no supply bays (engine comps haev a supply bay built into them).

[NAV]

Originally posted by Imperator Fyron:
"In regards to supply bays and engines I think when repaired all fuil is lost "

Not exactly. If the max supply level of the ship goes below the current supply level (from damage to engines, supply pods, etc.), the excess supplies are lost. It only makes sense. Where would the ship store 3000 supplies if it had no supply bays (engine comps haev a supply bay built into them).

I agree, when the Supply componant or engine that once added to the existing supply total of that ship/fleet, if repaired in space, does NOT get its supply Points (fuel) back and will be lost... Assuming it was not out of supply prior to component damage.

However when repaired then fleeted, it will share the supplies of the fleet and thus refuiled.

[ February 03, 2003, 12:19: Message edited by: NAV ]

[oleg]

If Pax is right and priorities are per ship, not per sector, what would happen if one removes most components from priority list, leaving only essentials like control and engines. I suspect that now SY will repair these components on first ship, than moves to another. After repairing all these components it will start to repair stuff you removed from the repair list. I don't believe they will stay unrepaired when SY has nothing else to do.

[Fyron]

Oleg, it is just that, a priority list. Just because something is not a priority does not mean it will never get done.

NAV:
Damaged components can't get their supplies back. If they did, it would do one of 2 things.
1) If all repaired comps were refilled with supplies, this would open the game to major exploiting.
2) If each component was tracked to see how many supplies it had been carrying, there would be a huge increase in memory usage in the game. Each component would have to have a separate memory unit tracking its supply levels. Consider that ships can easily have 30 different components on them (much more in some mods), and such a system becomes extremely unpractical.

[NAV]

Originally posted by Imperator Fyron:


NAV:
Damaged components can't get their supplies back. If they did, it would do one of 2 things.
1) If all repaired comps were refilled with supplies, this would open the game to major exploiting.
2) If each component was tracked to see how many supplies it had been carrying, there would be a huge increase in memory usage in the game. Each component would have to have a separate memory unit tracking its supply levels. Consider that ships can easily have 30 different components on them (much more in some mods), and such a system becomes extremely unpractical.

Imperator Fyron we seem to be in agreements in all the Posts in regards to the supply issue:
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Original Post: February 02, 2003, 18:31

I like to put construction at the top !!! That way if there was damage to your repair base over your home world your repair bays and space yards would be repaired first so others may assist in the repair of the fleets... Also when defending a warp point etc. You may have 2 repair ships with one damaged, this way the damaged one gets repaired first. This is my top chices...
1: Construction~Reasons stated above
2: Vehical Control~For ship operations
3: Engines~ So ship may get out of harms way for a repair base.

In regards to supply bays and engines I think when repaired all fuel is lost.

[ February 06, 2003, 19:14: Message edited by: NAV ]

[capnq]

Has anyone else experienced this kind of weirdness?

I did just yesterday.

Fleet goes through damaging warp point. In the order the ships were listed in the fleet:

Repair tender damage - 1 engine, 4 Armor III

Supply tender damage - Bridge, Life Support, Crew Quarters, 5 engines, 1 Armor III, 6 supply bays

Colonizer damage - colony module

Repair tender has a Repair Bay 2 on it. Priorities set to Vehicle Control, Engines, Armor, Colonizing, Cargo.

I expected the first turn's repairs would be the 3 Vehicle Controls and 2 engines on the supply tender.

What actually got fixed was the Vehicle Controls and 1 engine on the supply tender, plus the colony module.

This was a solo game using v1.84 + Hypermaze 2.0 beta. (I don't think the mod is relevant to this, though.)