OT. Where they really on the moon?

minipol · #1 March 5th, 2003, 12:54 AM

Today i saw a documentary about the first men on the moon. Apparently America wasn't ready yet to send pictures from the moon to home so they hired Kubrick to make a movie that showed the astronauts on the moon. Afterwards the CIA killed all people involved except Kubrick.

Now, the documentary didn't answer all the questions. Where they really on the moon?
I think so but they didn't have the capability to send live images home. So all people who watched the "live" landing on the moon where watching a movie

Also, Nixon had already taped a speech for when the astronauts would die. Pretty lame.
I'm not sure on how accurate the documentary was.

Any insights/comments?

Phoenix-D · #2 March 5th, 2003, 03:01 AM

Did this happen to be on FOX?

That particular show has been shot down so many times, in so many different ways its not even funny.

Phoenix-D

minipol · #3 March 5th, 2003, 03:09 AM

No, it was a French documentary shown on Belgian television. And the errors they showed in the movie from the moon where so enormous and rediculous it's hard not to believe it.

dogscoff · #4 March 5th, 2003, 11:41 AM

I've heard all kinds of never-went-there arguments, and most of them can be discreditted except for one:

How did the astronauts survive outside the Van Allen belt? The Van Allen belt is an electromagnetic layer around the Earth that soaks up or deflects most of the harmful radiation from the Sun and makes life on Earth possible.

The moonshot spacecraft and/or spacesuits would not have offered any protection at all from that radiation- Neil Armstrong & co should have been turned to crispy bacon before they got anywhere near the moon...

PsychoTechFreak · #5 March 5th, 2003, 12:26 PM

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The space suits and the space craft are just not strong enough to fight off the radiation either on the Moon itself or through the Van Allen radiation belt. (They went through the Van Allen belt in an hour, this was not enough time to be affected by the radiation. The astronauts were affected by radiation, they just were not made ill by it as the doses were small.)

From:
http://www.thevoiceofreason.com/Conspiracy/moon.htm

oleg · #6 March 5th, 2003, 12:53 PM

China is planning to send people to Moon in five years. Then we will know

Is't it ironic - it is entirely possible that soon China will be the only nation who send manned space expeditions ?

(shuttles are ground, russian space program has no money)

dogscoff · #7 March 5th, 2003, 12:58 PM

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The space suits and the space craft are just not strong enough to fight off the radiation either on the Moon itself or through the Van Allen radiation belt. (They went through the Van Allen belt in an hour, this was not enough time to be affected by the radiation. The astronauts were affected by radiation, they just were not made ill by it as the doses were small.)

I think whoever wtrote this misunderstood the point being made. It's not the radiation *within* the Van Allen belt that's the problem- it's the unshielded radiation of the sun *beyond* the belt.

Ruatha · #8 March 5th, 2003, 01:12 PM

Hey.

They where on the moon.
This conspiracy theory has been been answered to every thinking persons satisfaction over and over again.

It was a badly built up conspiracy theory when it was launched and it hasn't aged very well either.

I'm sure you can find the facts on plenty of places on the internet, try NASA or someother site and look for conspiracy or any such keyword.

(EDIT: look up these sites:
http://www.thursdaysclassroom.com
http://www.redzero.demon.co.uk/moonhoax/index.html
http://www.lunaranomalies.com/fake-moon.htm
http://www.lunaranomalies.com/fake-moon2.htm
)

[ March 05, 2003, 11:14: Message edited by: Ruatha ]

geoschmo · #9 March 5th, 2003, 03:26 PM

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Originally posted by dogscoff:

quote:

The space suits and the space craft are just not strong enough to fight off the radiation either on the Moon itself or through the Van Allen radiation belt. (They went through the Van Allen belt in an hour, this was not enough time to be affected by the radiation. The astronauts were affected by radiation, they just were not made ill by it as the doses were small.)

I think whoever wtrote this misunderstood the point being made. It's not the radiation *within* the Van Allen belt that's the problem- it's the unshielded radiation of the sun *beyond* the belt.

No actually you are incorrect D. Look up Van Allen Belt on google or something. It's a band of radioactive particles trapped by the earths magnetic field. Being in it for long periods of time is harmful to humans and even intrumentation. Passing thgouh it though doesn't cause significant damage beacuse the levels just aren't that high.

You are thinking probably of the general background radiation in space that we are protected from by our atmosphere and the magnetic field of the earth. This is a concern, one that we will have to resolve if we want to do any long-term trips to mars or other planets. But for a trip of a few days to the moon it's just not an issue.

At least not one that we are aware of. There may be some long term health effects of even short term cosmic background radiation, like increased risks of cancer or something. It's hard to tell though because we have such a small sample of astronauts to study and they are in such extrodinary health otherwise. But it's not like being cooked in a microwave oven.

Geoschmo

Aloofi · #10 March 5th, 2003, 04:20 PM

Oh well, I jus ran a search for the Moon thing and EVERY hit I got were for people flaming the "moon hoax theory" and calling them crazy.....
If is a not a hoax, why they pay so much attention and expend so much money on those Moon-hoax -believers?
I need more info to make my mind, but is not looking good for NASA.
Though I must keep in mind that I'm biased against all goverments.
Wow!
They never went to the Moon?!!!

This is better than the Evil Left Wing Conspiracy!!!