OT Farscape Best Scifi Series Ever?

[Desdinova]

Originally posted by ZeroAdunn:
Ok, to all those people who said Star Trek The Original Series:

What are you thinking??? I used to watch it when I was younger, but now it is like watching GIjoe, it is just impossible to take it seriously. Most of the Acting was terrible, the plots were often rediculous and poorly thought out...

actually the stories were fairly well thought out. most of them had a "moral of the story" aspect to them. i disagreed with some of them, but the were there. i am not overly concerned about acting unless it is truly horrible. in most series i have watched the 1st season is horribly acted, at least when they reshow it, as the people have not gotten into their characters yet. st:tng is a good example of this. (at least the first few episodes of it anyway)
edit: i guess my sights are not set that high, i would prefer a series with reasonable plot, not horrible acting, some originality, a bit of glitz every once in a while. i have seen series (not necessarily sci-fi) that have 2-3 of these and lack in the others and i lose interest in them quickly. guess it is kind of bad when i would settle for good instead of excellent.

[ March 17, 2003, 20:30: Message edited by: desdinova ]

[Foiden]

I think that may be part of the point. I think I can sort of understand why people may side with the original series as opposed to the newer ones. The reason is not necessarily due to the level of realism, but due to the entertainment value.

Sure there was overacting and such, but that's the charm. In the original series, there was a whole lot more "saying what everybody is thinking" than TNG or anything that follows. There's definite entertainment value when somebody does something you think is odd or stupid, and the onscreen presence just goes out and says what you're thinking, "Are you out of your Vulcan mind?" The way they plain defied any kind of proper military ediquette and never had the need to throw a barrier of tact between what they thought and what they said. It may not be what you can consider a building block of proper sci-fi, but it certainly puts a smile on your face.

But the only thing that some people had issues with stuff like TNG was that in the original series almost every unique problem had a unique solution. Some solutions, as weird as they seemed, showed some wild and exciting footage (often quite risky). And people just didn't like the small fact that after a certain amount of seasons, TNG solved 80% of its problems with Tachyon beams (whatever polarity setting you used). Heck, it seems that the best loved episodes were the ones that Tachyons didn't save. Like the Borg. An entrance that was so profound because, for once, they had to pull manuevers like the old show.

Strangely enough, perhaps its that very reason why the original cast has a deeper place in many people's hearts than anybody newer than them. And as much I agree that the acting may have been more proper in newer ST shows, I just can't seem to remember anybody else as fondly or vividly as the original cast. The battle between Heavy (Heavy meaning over-pronounced) acting and easily identifiable characterizations versus Better Acting but more Subdued characterizations. That's definitely opinion-making material, as people will honestly sit on both sides of the fence.

[ March 17, 2003, 20:52: Message edited by: Foiden ]

[Lord Kodos]

GREAT GHOST OF DOOKY! I forgot the best sci fi show ever to exist.

Invader Zim!

[Foiden]

I still haven't seen Invader Zim. I did hear good things about it, though I still have no idea what it is about.

[Fyron]

Invader Zim is not sci-fi, it is a comedic cartoon.

[Ragnarok]

Originally posted by Imperator Fyron:
Invader Zim is not sci-fi, it is a comedic cartoon.

Even though it's not sci-fi, Invader Zim is awesome. I have a few clips of it on my computer.

[Fyron]

I did not make a value judgement of the show, just a statement about it not qualifying as sci-fi.

[raynor]

ST:TOS vs. ST:TNG is almost a religious war kinda division. I have many friends who absolutely loved TOS but can't stand TNG. My friends who like TNG will still watch TOS but feel that is is a bit flat. The stories in the original series always had just a single plot line, and the characters showed much less depth. But there was more action. The Next Generation typically had three plots going on, and we got to see more character development. But, of course, there wasn't as much action in many episodes.

I like Star Trek: The Original Series before they had fleshed out the Prime Directive. There is an episode where Kirk tells Scotty to "glass" the planet if he doesn't hear back from Kirk. I enjoyed that episode. Then again, Riker's dreadnaught Enterprise in the final TNG episode was nice as well--as were the one shot, one kill weapons in the final episode of V'ger.

I'm a pretty big Star Trek fan but still think B5 is a better choice for best sci-fi series because it's darker and more representative of how I see the human race in the future. The whole "money isn't important" idea of Star Trek is a little too touchy feelie idealistic for my taste.

[Lord Kodos]

i mention how the Vectorian Armada is based of the Irken "BIG SPACE SHIP...GANG!" "You mean the Armada?"

[Ragnarok]

Originally posted by Imperator Fyron:
I did not make a value judgement of the show, just a statement about it not qualifying as sci-fi.

I know you didn't. I was just stating how I liked it.