OT: The price of Gas..

[DavidG]

Originally posted by Imperator Fyron:

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Oil we can find ways to live without, fresh-water on the other hand is necessary for life to exist.

Do you have any idea how much fresh water there is? Far more than us humans could ever make use of.

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Yea and a good chunk of that is in Canada. Best thing that could ever happen for Canada's economly would be a masssive global water shortage. (PS just in case anyone missed the smily no need to tell me all the ways a global water shortage would actually hurt )

[DavidG]

Originally posted by Phoenix-D:
You may be getting stiffed at the pump because of your own government. Check your gas taxes, I know many European countries have taxes so high they can make up to 40% of the total cost..

If only they were that low. In canada it is about 50%

[EvilGenius4ABetterTomorro]

You should figure out the cost per milli-liter of a Theater bought beverage. $3.00 for a medium Coke. Now that's profit.

[solops]

Originally posted by David E. Gervais:
I remember someplace I heard that the oil companies are pumping something like 10 galons of fresh-water into the oil wells for every 1 gal of petrolium that they take up.

Water floods use salt water pumped from water supply wells out of water bearing rock strata, filtered down to 5-20 microns (and sometimes chemically treated) and then injected into the target oil reservoir in injection wells, which are drilled in a carefully calculated pattern designed to allow the water to "sweep" the oil toward producing wells. Normal oil fields have a recovery efficiency of 8 to 13%. Water floods can sometimes increase this efficiency to 30%.

Water requirements for a flood are huge and fresh water is not really a viable alternative in most cases. Salt water is available in the earth in huge quantities. Also, few things are more destructive to oil and gas reservoirs than fresh water, which causes clay swelling, emulsions, precipitates and other nasty things. Many wells are completed using fresh or salt water treated with chemicals, but the volumes are small - a few hundred or thousand barrels. Waterfloods require water volumes in the hundreds of thousands or millions of barrels, even when the water used is produced and recycled into the flood.

[Paul1980au]

You know if you want to reduce youre oil and gas usage the following things will save money.

Dont buy SUVs or humbies lol - the ultimate fuel guzzlers - go for more fuel efficent and hybrid petrol electric cars.

Use proper insulation at home

Seek out energy efficent appliances

Recycle

Simple approaches that will reduce oil and gas usage. Plus discussing new technology as i do on investment forums.

[Fyron]

Dont buy SUVs or humbies lol - the ultimate fuel guzzlers - go for more fuel efficent and hybrid petrol electric cars.

If you have the large amount of money to buy one, sure. You will save a lot more money by getting a normal car than one of those hybrids, as the (useful) hybrids are quite expensive.

[Kamog]

Yeah, I hope the price on those hybrid cars come down. It would be nice to fill up half as often as a regular car and drive around the same amount...

[narf poit chez BOOM]

we need a solar power satalite or a few hundred. i don't know how many, but they could supply us with all the power we need, and if we lengthen out the wave enough, other people on here have told me there's no risk of cancer.

scientific facts aside, i'd still want to test that out for a few years on lab animals. large amounts of anything tend to be bad.

[Fyron]

You can still get cancer from long wavelengths, it just requires having them have a relatively tremendous amount of energy (much more than is possible from something like a cell phone). Beaming energy down from solar collector satellites might just be enough energy.

[Kamog]

Hopefully, the satellites would transmit the power in the form of a tight beam, precisely aimed at the receiving stations on the ground.