Very short question on Communion Master and the slave matrix

diamondspider · #1 January 29th, 2004, 03:01 PM

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Originally posted by tinkthank:
Hello,

wondering: does a Slave Matrix (forgable item with astral and earth) work on ALL persons who can hold it? I mean: will it also work with commanders who can cast no astral magic, or even no magic whatsoever?

(I am asking because I would like to try using a race such as Pangaia with no astral magic with my rainbow pretender, he forges some slave matrixes and gives them to cheap commanders (e.g. harpies), then my pretender need just cast communion master and his rainbow powers will be revealed?)

thank you for your info

I haven't tested that, but I suspect it would work.

Magical items CAN give levels in magic to commanders that didn't have any. So I'd imagine that they could also serve as slaves with the item.

edit: I was wrong, only mages can equip it, but apparent any mage can even if they have no astral.

[ January 29, 2004, 13:05: Message edited by: diamondspider ]

Bossemanden · #2 January 29th, 2004, 03:28 PM

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Originally posted by diamondspider:
edit: I was wrong, only mages can equip it, but apparent any mage can even if they have no astral.

I tried a communion slave/master matrix on my Alchemist pretender (master) and 8 priests (Slaves) and it didnt work. So priests probably dont count for slave purposes.

[ January 29, 2004, 21:57: Message edited by: Bossemanden ]

tinkthank · #3 January 29th, 2004, 03:37 PM

Damn. Outside of Pangaia it is hard to find a stealthy mage.
But any mage will work?

diamondspider · #4 January 29th, 2004, 03:54 PM

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Originally posted by Bossemanden:

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Originally posted by diamondspider:
edit: I was wrong, only mages can equip it, but apparent any mage can even if they have no astral. [/QB]

I tried a communion slave/master matrix on my Alchemist pretender (master) and 8 priests (Slaves) and it didnt work. So priests probably dont count for slave purposes. [/QB]

Makes sense. The definition of a mage is probably any commander that starts with at least one level of any sort of magic except divine.

Chris Byler · #5 January 29th, 2004, 04:24 PM

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Originally posted by diamondspider:

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Originally posted by Bossemanden:

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Originally posted by diamondspider:
edit: I was wrong, only mages can equip it, but apparent any mage can even if they have no astral.

I tried a communion slave/master matrix on my Alchemist pretender (master) and 8 priests (Slaves) and it didnt work. So priests probably dont count for slave purposes. [/QB]

Makes sense. The definition of a mage is probably any commander that starts with at least one level of any sort of magic except divine. [/QB]

They don't have to start with it, they just have to have it. Empowerment is fine (although a bit pricy for communion slaves!)

The best communion slave, bar none, is Pythium's Theurg Communicant (which *isn't* a mage but gets automatic Communion Slave anyway). Aside from that, any cheap mage with some astral is good, especially if he is also sacred (Lizard shamans; they are available as independents as well as C'tis; also Crystal Amazon Priestesses). Blood can be used in communions, but Sabbath Master *and* Sabbath Slave have a mandatory slave cost (only one, but still, it adds up if all your slaves are using it). So it's better to use the Astral Versions if you can.

Slave matrixes are kind of a steep investment, but if you have to use them, put them on any cheap mage or mage/priest (Arco priestess, Initiate, Inquisitor, Seraph, Dryad, Witch Doctor).

Taqwus · #6 January 29th, 2004, 07:35 PM

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Originally posted by tinkthank:
Damn. Outside of Pangaia it is hard to find a stealthy mage.
But any mage will work?

Star Children come to mind -- R'lyeh's astral-1, amphibious, mind-bLasting assassin-mages.
Elludian Moon Mages and the Grey Seers (? The mages from the Grey Tower, anyway) are also stealthy astral-mages, but you need the matching magical sites to get them in quantity.

quantum_mechani · #7 January 29th, 2004, 07:45 PM

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Originally posted by tinkthank:
Damn. Outside of Pangaia it is hard to find a stealthy mage.

Other than those mentioned, SG Ermor has stealthy dusk elders.

olaf73 · #8 January 29th, 2004, 08:56 PM

How exactly does the Pythium Theurg Communicant work?

Thanks
olaf

HJ · #9 January 29th, 2004, 09:19 PM

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Originally posted by olaf73:
How exactly does the Pythium Theurg Communicant work?

Thanks
olaf

Just like any other communion slave (the numbers required are the same etc.). Think of him as having a slave matrix - he automatically becomes communion slave at the beginning of the battle.

olaf73 · #10 January 29th, 2004, 11:45 PM

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Originally posted by HJ:

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Originally posted by olaf73:
How exactly does the Pythium Theurg Communicant work?

Thanks
olaf

Just like any other communion slave (the numbers required are the same etc.). Think of him as having a slave matrix - he automatically becomes communion slave at the beginning of the battle.

So I just need to have a guy cast the communion master spell, or whatever its called?

What kind of benefits does the communion leader draw from one slave? Does it scale linearly with more slaves?

olaf